WilliE WOnka Wins!

[Toad]

Originally posted by Nash
What in the world does that even mean?

Toad, you are going out on a limb on this one....

It's pretty simple when you don't go into it with a pre-planned agenda.

It means that there are some behaviors that are so beyond the pale of normal human social interaction that these behaviors are termed "savage".

Further, these barbarous acts define the humans that perform them as "savages" themselves.

Savage, in this case, being defined as "a member of an uncivilized people".

What I took from his comment was that he viewed those people as savages, uncivilized people. While I don't really agree with that, I think I understand what he was saying.

I think you, otoh, just took it as an easy opportunity to play the race card.

Oh, and why don't I believe it? Because there are many examples of "civilized" people becoming "uncivilized" in disasterous situations. However, rarely does everyone become a "savage"; some do and many more don't.

What happened in N.O. happens on larger and smaller scales around the world everyday. People become savages towards others, and no one race, creed or color can say "none of us ever did that".

[Bronk]

Originally posted by storch
Rambler!!!  Heh he's a lame old car.

Storch why be so insulting.


The Rambler Scrambler was a fine muscle car .

Comparing it to Nash is just way off.



Bronk

[Mini D]

Originally posted by lazs2
brenjen... we all got it.  the "liberals" here thrive on intolerance and playing the race card... they hope to make people feel some kind of guilt and just shut up about what is happening no matter how obvious.   I doubt that nash has been any closer to a real disaster or riot than his TV set or some blog on a far left corner of the internet.

In the "Us vs Them" that is the AH O'Club... I have to disagree with you on this. The thread started out as a hatchet job and people didn't disappoint. The use of "them" and "they" was well beyond general descriptions. I have to wonder if this would have been the same issue if the Mayor were white and a white crowd had just voted him in.

The irony is... this reminds me of MT's "this is an example of why religion should be kept out of the government" statement.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Toad


Savage, in this case, being defined as "a member of an uncivilized people".

While I resemble that remark, I am offended by the negative connotations applied to the term "savage" in this thread.

[T0J0]

The NO Katrina disaster is a librule embarrassment of huge proportions, a model of the 40 year democratic failed war on poverty with no exit strategy in site. When you speak of such sacred ground it tends to make them all loopy and weak knee... Nash being the stauchest of the libules really hasn't anything to add so he played the race argument like Jesse jackson does...RE-electing Ray Nagan was the only answer based on years of entitlements...The entitlements must not be interefered with...

TJ

[Brenjen]

People become savages towards others, and no one race, creed or color can say "none of us ever did that".

Amen brother!

 I may be & harsh & extreme in my views of how to deal with certain problems, I admit that I am. I would have shot every one of the savage pos raping murdering savages if I were in charge. (yes I absolutely believe "so called" people who do that are sub-human & deserve to be put down like dogs, I would at least feel bad about putting down the dog) I would have arrested & jailed ANYONE I caught looting T.V.s & DVD players & P/C's etc. or shot them if they resisted or fled.

 On the other hand; I would have helped them load food & water into a shopping cart from the same store.

 It's not that we don't care about you, it's just that our tolerance for intentional stupidity meter has pegged out. They should either stop insuring you people or stop providing you with the supplies to rebuild, I couldn't even afford to buy the plywood I needed to repair my fathers rotting floor because of how high the price went in the aftermath of Katrina, all because of supply & demand. (and the price has stayed high)

 Your choices directly affect the rest of the nation & the rest of the nation isn't happy about it, especially when we hear people in the disaster area that are outraged by the fact they lost everything & want to blame everyone but themselves & the people that were responsible for their evacuation & relief. THEN they turn right around & re-elect the very person who didn't do his job the first time. If a never before seen category of storm hits N.O. this year; a storm so strong they have to invent two new categories for it, I bet some idiots will still go right back in & rebuild.

[Brenjen]

Originally posted by Mini D
I have to wonder if this would have been the same issue if the Mayor were white and a white crowd had just voted him in.

 It would have been much worse. If I were the mayor of a city & white & I said "I'm going to turn this into a vanilla city once again" & the population of that city was predominantly white. I would have been disgraced before the election even took place.

 Ray Nagin is a racist & everyone who voted for him is a racist or racist supporter regardless of their race.

[Slash27]

See Rule #4

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Brenjen

 Ray Nagin is a racist & everyone who voted for him is a racist or racist supporter regardless of their race.

Yep. Don't get to worked up over Nash's bs Bren, you are trying to get through to some one with zero common sense.

[Kaw1000]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/21/D8HOCUJ81.html

More coruption in NO!!!

[Mini D]

Originally posted by Brenjen
Ray Nagin is a racist & everyone who voted for him is a racist or racist supporter regardless of their race.

I'd venture to say that virtually every mayor in every city in the south is a racists. I've never seen a more racially divided area in my life.

The fact that he is/isn't a racist has little to do with the "they and them" being thrown around in this thread. Take note of the comparisons to Marion Barry and the use of "they" and "them" when it was done.

There is no end to the level of stupidity displayed by voters and polititians. Citing this as an example of anything else is simply wrong.

If the guy is an idiot, talk about what an idiot he is. The article enough provides enough fodder to do that. Enough about "they" and "them". When you turn it into a battle, they and them are going to fight back. You just saw the result.

[Eagler]

my original post on this thread was pointing at the stupidity of the voters to vote this loser back in.  I threw in the chocolate city comment as an example of the mayors ignorace confriming the voters acceptance of more of the same for their city.

When the levels break the next time, it will be Bushs fault unless there is a dumbacrat in the "white" house...is that a racial slur too???

maybe Nash isn't serious with his posts, it'd be easier to read his rants knowing they were trolling bs...

[Mini D]

Did you read any of this thread after your post... I mean other than Nash's posts?

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Mini D
Did you read any of this thread after your post... I mean other than Nash's posts?

yes I did
and Nash is  the first one to turn the "chocolate" term into a race card with his first response to my initial post. that is why I clarified it with my post before this one...

I do not even think Nash realized who 6pence and I were talking about before his threw out the race card in that post ... I think he was trying to get the thread closed as he must have a soft spot for stupid US politicans and the ignorant masses who keep them in office ...

[Mini D]

So... that's all you're hung up on? Not the other 5 people that took the same term and ran with it? You have a problem with nash not liking the term, but no problem with others loving it.

Gotcha.

You do realize this makes him right... right?

The thread accomplished exactly what it set out to accomplish. Watching you hunch your shoulders with the "who me?" expression is the icing on the cake.