The real "secret" is not to "BnZ" but to E fight (assuming a single con). Most of the really good sticks will use a "top down" tactic where they dont go under the con but pull the noose tighter and tighter from above....the second tactic is to actually blow on thru on purpose and see if you can draw the guy up...while actually bleeding off extra E so you can flip over....basically you want to be positive E...but seperation over 2k or so simply takes the pressure of the con.....
