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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2006, 02:49:54 PM »
5 shootings in 90 days with one death?   yep... pretty sure I can dredge up a few U.S. cities of 120,000 with a better record than that.

Sooo... how could these guys have gotten guns?  seems that anyone can get one for three grand..... only about twice what a decent handgun would cost in a backwater like bermuda if they were absolutely legal I would imagine... certainly not enough to stop anyone who was a criminal from getting one.

swoop... I am thinking that, like most U.S. trends... you are like 20 or so years behind us... I think that you will probly have the same kind of violence so far as minorities and guns and that all the gun bans in the world won't do anything but make the law abiding citizens of your island helpless.

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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2006, 03:07:46 PM »
Care to make a small wager on that?

That in 20 years Britains gun crime stats (per capita) will still be less than the US's are today?

This is assuming that Britains gun laws dont radically change in the next 20 years......


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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2006, 04:38:50 PM »
Swoop, lazs is so old i doubt he will live that long.

If he was a horse he woulda been shot by now.
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2006, 05:29:12 PM »
Here's one that's pretty low:

http://roundrock.areaconnect.com/crime1.htm

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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2006, 05:54:34 PM »
You brits are so protected from yourself its not funny. Freedom??? with a 1,000 web cams on every street corner. Our freedom is our rights, take that away and what do you have SOCCER loving knife packing brit.. I have been to to your country and i didnt see one good looking girl. Their is something wrong with that.... BTW your women love guys from Texas..

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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2006, 05:59:00 PM »
Time to clean my guns amd wait for someone to push their views on me.

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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2006, 06:52:53 PM »
I'm guessing the nervous sweating brought on by not being armed made them feel sorry for you.

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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2006, 07:30:07 PM »
Anyone else picturing gangstas doing the drive by in pink shorts, and on scooters?

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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2006, 09:06:33 AM »
swoop... I would say that your homicide rate will probly be less than ours in 20 years too..... maybe not the white homicide rate but.... overall... sure.

You will never be a diverse and vibrant society.   You also never had a gun problem.   You had no gun laws until about 1920 and your homicide rate was very low.    You banned guns for no real reason except that you allowed your press to panic you like little girls.

Wait till they start on how dangerous and expensive motorcycles are.... Point is... you never vote to restrict the other guys freedom cause it only makes government stronger and... they get bored and come after you next...  

There is allways some woman or womanly man waiting in the wings to ban what you like as being a threat to....... "society"

In twenty years you might be telling some bored kids about how you used to ride 200 hp motorcycles before they were banned.

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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2006, 09:16:16 AM »
Today is the 40th anniversary of Charles Whitmans killing rampage at the University of Texas. This man killed his wife, his mother, then climbed to observation deck of the tower on the UT campus and began killing innocent people on campus and downtown Austin using a high powered rifle and scope.

It took a  hours before a couple of cops could work their way up the tower and take him out. I don't remember the actual death toll . It would have been higher had his attack not been suppresed by return fire.
The majority of which came from armed citizens of Austin not the police.

Sorry Laz didn't mean to hijack your thread. Armed law abiding citizens are a positive not a negative.

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Whitman ran amuck for 96 minutes before he was killed. The death toll was 16 including his wife, and mother. Roughly twice that wounded.
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« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2006, 09:39:49 AM »
Heya Swoop, this article indicates that reducing violence isn't quite as simple as "disarming" the public:

(From Times Online)

A United Nations report has labeled Scotland as the most violent country in the developed world, with people three times more likely to be assaulted than in America.

England and Wales recorded the second highest number of violent assaults while Northern Ireland recorded the fewest.

The study, based on telephone interviews with victims of crime in 21 countries, found that more than 2,000 Scots were attacked every week, almost ten times the official police figures.  They include non-sexual crimes of violence and serious assaults.

Violent crime has doubled in Scotland over the past 20 years, per head of population, and now comparable with cities such as Rio de Janeiro, Johannesburg, and Tbilisi.

The attacks have been fueled by a "booze and blades" culture in the west of Scotland...

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Or this:

The British Crime Survey annually reports an average of 2,500,000 crimes of violence being committed every year.

A larger number of violent break-ins and assaults of home-owners is being reported than ever before.

What with a large Muslim minority largely resentful of British foreign policy and the growth of drug gangs, whatcha bet this problem not only grows in scale but also becomes more deadly in the next decade?

Regards, Shuckins
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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2006, 10:42:07 AM »
This is how rumors get started.
We have already been informed by a very trustworthy source that there are no guns in Bermuda.
Shame on you guys.
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2006, 10:47:56 AM »
1. What is Top Gun?

A shameless Navy recruiting film with the standard Tom Cruise movie plot. Oh, it's very gay, but that's been said.

2. Why is it that there is a gun shop on almost every corner in this community?

It's part of a CIA genocide conspiracy.

3. Well where would you go if you had the biggest gun in the universe?

No where special.

4. You got a gun?

A b-b gun and a Calico with the 100 round circular magazine...but it's the .22 version, so I'd need all 100 shots to take out one person. It's a gun often used in cheap futuritic movies. I haven't shot the thing in 5 years or more.

5. You're not a postal worker, are you?

No, but my Dad put in nearly 25 years, then the USPS tried to screw him out of retirement.

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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2006, 11:07:04 AM »
This has gotta be the most wandering thread ever.  It started with guns in Bermuda (shock!  Horror!) and now we've got motorcycles being banned and people head butting each other in Scotland.  Which I think is the national sport up there.


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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2006, 02:47:51 PM »
"up there"?  in the U.S. any place as close as Scotland would be considered walking distance.

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