Author Topic: Media and the Middle East. (Read 1531 times)

Rolex · « **on:** August 04, 2006, 06:28:01 AM »

Here is a link to a piece contrasting the differences between the US media and other coverage of Palestinian-Israeli relations. It may challenge some beliefs.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696

Saintaw · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2006, 06:39:34 AM »

Link is too long and has been ....ified. you need to edit it, and use Tinyurl rolex-san

PS: That being said... I don't think them numpties here are interrested in having another POV. LIES IT MUST BE ALL LIES!!!111:furious

Shuckins · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2006, 07:10:55 AM »

Of course, your own willingness to hear and adopt an opposing point of view is beyond question.

Heck, it's never even been mentioned.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2006, 07:26:07 AM »

LOL This is a blatant one sided left wing propaganda piece that merely makes excuses for Palestenian violence, disorganization and stupididity. The first person they interview is none other than USA hater #1 writer/proffesor Noam Chomsky... They follow him by interviewing some lesbian writer for from the Village Voice and then some Israeli Army deserter... Then they feature a guy who thinks Mike Moore's Farenheit 911 is too conservative... Then of course no piece of US basing propaganda could be without Robert Fisk.. Etc etc etc...

Its hillarious that they present this one sided leftist tirade as a film arguing AGAINST allaeged jew corporate media propagnada...

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2006, 07:53:44 AM »

Or, You can blindly accept whatever the right spews as absolute gospel

Thats ok. the left is just as guilty.

It is amusing how we all claim the media to be less then accurate unless we agree with what they say.
both sides do this

that being said. I've only watched the first 10 minutes. but havent been able to identify anything that was less the factual

And we wonder why they are angry

Same as we wonder why our inner city people are angry.

Poverty tends to make people angry.

Just ask the French and Russians

THAT being said

Based on how the occupied territories have been run over the last 30 years
I see the Germans taught their former victims well on how to manage people they hate

Saintaw · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:05:45 AM »

told ya so... ©

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:07:03 AM »

Actually I was replying to GRUNHERZ

so really so far there is a 50/50 responce

Even though Im more of a in the middle man myself

culero · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:19:00 AM »

So, let me see if I understand.

The Israelis are surrounded on all sides by a hostile Arab population that has as its explicitly stated goal the destruction of Israel and the expulsion of the Israeli people from the region.

The Israelis in return are reacting in ways that are making it tough on those people. They have made agreements several times to back off in return for promises by the Arabs to cease hostilities, and in every case have had to clamp back down because the Arabs have violated those promises.

I don't see the problem. In my view, the Israelis are acting reasonably. In their place, I would advocate harsher measures.

culero

Shuckins · « **Reply #8 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:26:16 AM »

Aw c'mon Sain! I'll admit to being close-minded if you will! I promise!

You go first.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #9 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:29:57 AM »

Ok about 3/4 of the way through it now. Still havent seen anything that can be reguarded as
(A)- Inaccurate
(B)- propoganda

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #10 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:32:16 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by culero
So, let me see if I understand.

The Israelis are surrounded on all sides by a hostile Arab population that has as its explicitly stated goal the destruction of Israel and the expulsion of the Israeli people from the region.

The Israelis in return are reacting in ways that are making it tough on those people. They have made agreements several times to back off in return for promises by the Arabs to cease hostilities, and in every case have had to clamp back down because the Arabs have violated those promises.

I don't see the problem. In my view, the Israelis are acting reasonably. In their place, I would advocate harsher measures.

culero

but the question has to be asked. Why is the population so hostile?

Watch the fillm. No matter what side your on it still presents some interesting questions as to how the entire thing is portrayed in the media

Momus-- · « **Reply #11 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:38:49 AM »

That's a masterful fact-based point by point rebuttal of the presentation Grun.

Shuckins · « **Reply #12 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:50:46 AM »

Read this: www.zionism-israel.com/zionism_history.htm

It's at LEAST as accurate as the site you posted.

Saintaw · « **Reply #13 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:53:51 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Shuckins
Aw c'mon Sain! I'll admit to being close-minded if you will! I promise!

You go first.

Nope

At least not on this matter.
I'm just saying that it's better to have a peek at both sides of the coin than trusting the one that is repeatedly shown to you. I have aproximately the same info/news feed you have and probably have the same initial view on it... But I'm ready to take a peek at another one if it's presented to me.

I just can't go for the:
A side = GOOD!!!
B side = BAD!!!!*

that just doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned. Profiit, profit, profit... it has to be somewhere in there for someone, even if I'm not aware of what or who it profits to, I know it's there.... on both sides. It's human nature.

*BGBMAW friendly translation

Nilsen · « **Reply #14 on:** August 04, 2006, 08:58:31 AM »

Thx Rolex