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Offline E25280

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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2006, 10:08:19 AM »
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an M5? i think he ment M3,
You may already know this, but there was an M-5 version of the halftrack, built by International Harvester I believe (M-3 was a White design).  Basically the same in function, different engines, I believe, and the M-5 had the 50cal mounted toward the side instead of near the middle IIRC.

There was also an M-5 "improved" version of the M-3 Stuart light tank.

(What does this add to the conversation?  Absolutely nothing! :D )
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2006, 11:46:12 AM »
try to describe any world war 2 vehicle and i will most likely know the answer!  try me!:cool: :t :furious :p :( :mad: :D :cool: :lol :rofl
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2006, 11:48:48 AM »
and the m-5 and m-3 had the .50 cal. in the same spot for ur information!:cool: :p :rofl :aok :D
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2006, 12:00:02 PM »
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Originally posted by E25280
You may already know this, but there was an M-5 version of the halftrack, built by International Harvester I believe (M-3 was a White design).  Basically the same in function, different engines, I believe, and the M-5 had the 50cal mounted toward the side instead of near the middle IIRC.


Correct, the M5 was built by International Harvester.  The main difference being, that the IH version had homogenous 5/16" armour on its rear bed, and rounded rear corners.  The rest of the halftracks (which were in fact designed by White based off their early M3 Scout Car series) had armour of 1/4" face hardened plate which was bolted together with 3/8" countersunk bolts.  The down side to these was that a round strike on the bolt would send the stud and nut flying into the interior of the vehicle....

The Halftracks carried a very wide variety of weapons.  From the 75mm howitzers deployed on M2 chassis to provide anti-tank firepower in North Africa, to the late war designed M-16 which features quad.50's.  All in all, it is a nice design, but extremely thin skinned.  

On a note, the Israeli's are still using the Halftrack chassis with a turbo diesel supplementing the original White 160AX gasoline engine (think flat head 6), and it is in service to this day, albeit not as an APC, but as a utility vehicle.
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2006, 12:06:48 PM »
M26 Pershing with 90mm gun to deal with Tigers

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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2006, 12:24:34 PM »
a tank to take care of a tiger needs to have a good gun (this one has a more powerful gun by 2mm), thick armor (this one only has thick armor on the turret not in the hull though (2 in. hull; 4 in. turret)) u need to have thick armor in the hull 2! and it needs to be slightly faster then a tiger in driving speed and turret turning speed! :furious :aok :cool: :p ;) :aok ;) :aok
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2006, 12:31:37 PM »
but still if u like fire lighting a tiger in flames with a flamethrower, would be the best!
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2006, 09:51:37 PM »
Taylor,

The power of a gun isn't measured by millimeter's, it's the charge in the round and what type it is.  Millimeter is just the diameter of the round.  For example, a 40 MM HE round is less likely to penetrate armour then a 40MM AP round.


To my knowledge anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2006, 10:04:35 PM »
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Taylor,

The power of a gun isn't measured by millimeter's, it's the charge in the round and what type it is.  Millimeter is just the diameter of the round.  For example, a 40 MM HE round is less likely to penetrate armour then a 40MM AP round.


To my knowledge anyway.
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Best examples to illustrate are the 75mm gun on the Panther and the British 17lbr gun(76mm IIRC) both had more armor penetration power than the 88mm on the Tiger I.
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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2006, 11:39:47 AM »
alright, i know that! but AP rounds r for against armor persiong rounds and HE rounds r for artillary or destroying buildings or something like that!
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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2006, 12:33:10 PM »
This 88mm mounting monster halftrack would be just fine vs a Tiger, and in the anti-aircraft role would give the GVs and base defenders a chance against bombers.  This is the next vehicle we truly need:




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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2006, 07:37:49 PM »
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try to describe any world war 2 vehicle and i will most likely know the answer!  try me!:cool: :t :furious :p :( :mad: :D :cool: :lol :rofl



Uh....it's green, has tracks and a gas engine, lights first time, every time.
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i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2006, 10:55:22 AM »
k, be more spacific! u r describing any u.s. medium or lighttank okay! either the sherman or stuart, alright?
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2006, 11:01:02 AM »
okay, i have to edmit that that german halftrack with a 88 is cool and that but can it still carry troops like the m-3 halftrack or what ever with a 75mm cannon?
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2006, 01:33:03 PM »
No, the 88mm mounting takes up the space that the troops would normally be sitting in.  I'm thinking of this more as a multi-role vehicle - artillery support, one helluva mannable anti-aircraft gun (finally), and if your slick enough, a tank killer.

It would sure add a lot of interesting possibilities - more than any other single vehicle I can think of.

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