Author Topic: This just in - pounding Iraq (Read 3376 times)

Fury · « **on:** February 16, 2001, 12:39:00 PM »

U.S. military strike reported in southern Iraq
Pentagon sources say U.S. warplanes pounded communications and control sites today in southern Iraq.

CNN's Jane Arraf, reporting from Baghdad, said air raid warnings went off in the city prior to the explosions. There was no immediate comment from the Iraqi government.

Baghdad radio and the Iraqi television service switched from normal programming to military music, an indication some military event took place. A period of quiet followed the air raid warnings, explosions, and anti-aircraft fire

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From cnn.com, no more news yet since it's "Breaking News".

Fury

blur · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2001, 01:31:00 PM »

With the right wingers back in da house, the only safe Iraqi is a fetus.

Dowding · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2001, 02:15:00 PM »

Let's keep on embargoing those medical supplies lads!

Everybody knows that penicilin is a lethal weapon in the right hands...

... and that the only good Iraqi is a dead Iraqi.

www.maic.org.uk

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Karnak · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2001, 03:15:00 PM »

BBC News: US and UK planes bomb Baghdad

Blur,
In case you hadn't noticed, Bill Clinton was hardly nice to the Iraqis. They were bombed on dozens of occasions during his administration.

It seems that Saddam was testing the new administration. They fired a lot of missles in January. He did the same kind of crap in 1993 when Clinton was just entering office, and the result was the same. His people got bombed.

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For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

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Dowding · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2001, 03:39:00 PM »

All the UK and US is doing is fortifying his power base, while adding more supporters to his 'beleaguered' position.

The continuing embargo on medical supplies and other humanitarian aid is nothing short of a disgrace.

But hey, while there is a threat in the region we can sell containership loads of arms to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. Cool!

I wonder how much money the US and UK economies made out of the Gulf War? Include the reconstruction projects with the arms sales, and I bet we've broken even several times over.

O what a loverly war!

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TheWobble · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2001, 03:51:00 PM »

Dont worry Im surew that all the targets Our goverment hit were
A:Retirement Homes
B:Baby formula plant (love that one)
C: a hospital for infants.

yup..Saddam shouldent have acted like an amazinhunk eh?
Here is saddam's websight BTW http://www.wildscooter.com/saddam/main.htm
Yea Dowding I was a lovely war, bout time the US had some target practice

Oh and btw it WASNT just the US that did the shooting it was BRITISH planes aswell, so if yer gonna squeak about the US on this one you cant leave out the brits.

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Ice · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2001, 04:23:00 PM »

Dowding...

Ever hear of Oil for Food?

A program in which Iraq's people can obtain medical supplies and food thru allowed sales of Oil within enforced sanctions.

Oh....of course the fact that Saddam is abusing this program by deflecting funds meant for his people back to the military is entirely the USA's fault right?

Hard cold choices are made every day, some right, some wrong and some in the middle. What a luxury you enjoy...sitting on the sidelines, accountable for nothing other than your own selfishness, passing judgement on others.

Of course, you would be happier if Saddam had the capability to kill US pilots...if only things were as simple as you percieve them to be.

You must still be young

Ltr

Ice

Dowding · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2001, 04:51:00 PM »

Whoever said anything about the US being the sole protagonist in this? Don't forget there are RAF pilots flying over Iraq right now.

The US stance is supported by the UK, and in fact all the other countries on the security council are against the continuing embargo on humanitarian aid.

There is no UN mandate for over-flying Iraq. Although I personally have no problem with the no-fly-zones being enforced.

But what about the Turkish planes that are being used to attack the Kurds in the North? Do we take action against them?

No, we welcome them into NATO.

BTW, unlike many who post here, I believe it is quite acceptable to criticise your own government.

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Ever hear of Oil for Food?

But why hand a propaganda victory on a plate to Saddam? This embargo on humanitarian aid defeats its objective - to make his people rise against him.

What actually happens is that Saddam steals the money and blames the shortages on the US/UK - isolated, his people hate the outside world. We are storing up problems for the future.

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...accountable for nothing other than your own selfishness...

I've donated to MAIC, so at least I don't just sit back and apathetically accept the situation. It's not much, but it's better than nothing.

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Of course, you would be happier if Saddam had the capability to kill US pilots...

I'm very sorry. Did I miss something? Since when did medical supplies equate to SAMs and ZSUs? Please enlighten me. And why would I want Saddam to be able to attack RAF or US planes? Please explain that to me.

BTW, I'd rather be young and idealistic, than old, apathetic and defeated.

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RAM · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2001, 05:02:00 PM »

Well, from my point of view, I think the only reason after this attack was that Bush wanted to show Saddam that he is as "machoman" as his father was.

And dont forget that if Saddam is where he is is because "someone" didnt press to see him removed from the power in Irak when the gulf war was over

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Originally posted by Dowding:
BTW, unlike many who post here, I believe it is quite acceptable to criticise your own government.

Not when you just voted it, Dowding

Ice · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2001, 05:56:00 PM »

All were once young and idealistic.

BTW...there is a difference between foolishness and wisdom....someday you will understand that.

I've said enough...I will no longer respond to this thread as it will serve no purpose.

Oh...one last thing...the reason I spoke to you about US pilots being killed is that you criticized todays action, when it was directed at minimizing Saddams ability to hit what he aims at.

Enjoy your youth and this topic!

Bye Bye!

Cabby · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2001, 07:15:00 PM »

Hey Lib apologists for brutal, murdering, thug dictators:

Besides a quick "stuff it", if American aircrews are in hostile territory(whatever you think of the mission), and Area/SAM Radar is "painting" them, placing these aircrews under the threat of SAM launch, then ALL relavent steps should be taken to ELIMINATE this threat. IMMEDIATELY.

When America(or Allied Coalition)deploys it's military personnel into harm's way, and EVERY STEP IS NOT TAKEN TO PROTECT these people, that is not only negligent and stupid, but criminal as well. Ever heard of Viet Nam???

That's so "Common Sense" no wonder it escapes the minds of the "linguine-for-a-backbone" Lib-Leftists.

What Iraq suffers is the COMPLETE and TOTAL responsibility of Saddam Hussein. And no one else.

Cabby

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Tac · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2001, 07:55:00 PM »

"This embargo on humanitarian aid defeats its objective - to make his people rise against him."

Yeah, that worked great in Cuba.

"Embargos only starve the poor, the rich and those in power still eat plenty. The common folk dont rebel, they just starve and die"

Wegaman · « **Reply #12 on:** February 16, 2001, 10:25:00 PM »

That would be cool if the USAF had an "old school day" where it would fly Chogs and p51's instead of jet fighters. Funny thing is we would still accomplish our mission!

Cabby · « **Reply #13 on:** February 16, 2001, 10:27:00 PM »

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" The common folk dont rebel, they just starve and die"

I suppose decadent, ignorant, cowardly populations do. Most don't starve for long. Read-up on some world history.

Cabby

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"The Jungle Air Force"
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Kieren · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2001, 11:09:00 PM »

It is quite acceptable to criticize your government. It is also quite acceptable to be offended by someone who makes callous remarks about an issue that affects you personally.