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« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2006, 10:45:30 AM »
If I have to choose between fascism and socialism/communism I think I'll have to go with the former. Both will destroy individual liberty and the end result will be the same. With facisim though I think I'll have a better seat on the train to hell.

Or, we could renounce both and get back to valuing individual liberty, personal responsibilty, and earning your lot in life.

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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2006, 10:58:18 AM »
Has any nation's government gone fundamentally unchanged for more than 200-300 years since Rome? Seems humans are basically unable to self-govern without an occasional violent revolution or war. Guess we all need to press that reset button when the system becomes corrupted beyond repair.

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« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2006, 11:07:15 AM »
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I think denial of the previous characteristics when majority of those are true is the 15th characteristic.

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« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2006, 12:56:02 PM »
no one is saying that things aren't getting worse in the U.S.    

They most certainly are.

What we are saying is that this liberal clowns idea of a horror government (facism) is no worse than socialism.

My point is that it may be bad under the current guys..... but it would have been 10 times worse under kerrie and co with his handpicked judges.

There is nothing worse than socialism.   The more of it the worse it gets.

NEVER vote for a democrat.

no matter what the guy with the balding pony tail in the teachers lounge tells ya.

I have not seen one suggestion other than revolution that would work.  

My only suggestion is.... never vote for any new tax and never vote for any new law that takes away anyones rights and NEVER vote for a democrat no matter how much he tells you that he isn't like all the other democrats.

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« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2006, 01:24:12 PM »
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Has any nation's government gone fundamentally unchanged for more than 200-300 years since Rome? Seems humans are basically unable to self-govern without an occasional violent revolution or war. Guess we all need to press that reset button when the system becomes corrupted beyond repair.



we ar completly able to govern ourselves, its when someone else tries to govern for us that it goes wrong.

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« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2006, 02:17:03 PM »
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we ar completly able to govern ourselves, its when someone else tries to govern for us that it goes wrong.


If we were all able to govern or control ourselves perhaps treating others as we want to be treated I think we would have no use for lawyers, judges, politicians, or tyranical leaders. If only.

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« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2006, 02:37:51 PM »
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NEVER vote for a democrat no matter how much he tells you that he isn't like all the other democrats.

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« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2006, 02:41:53 PM »
It's a bit odd.. but I don't see anything in there that defines fascism. Those traits are found in virtually every government.

The "modern lingo" style is duly noted. Amazing how many catch phrases in there have only recently been made popular.

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« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2006, 04:06:14 PM »
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NEVER vote for a democrat.

no matter what the guy with the balding pony tail in the teachers lounge tells ya.

lazs


OMG you hit the nail on the head.  This guy is everywhere too. Plus  you can add a Richard Dreyfuss beard to him at times.

My job takes me into a lot of public schools, and right into the Teachers Workrooms as they are called down here. He's in many of them,
 hands waving in the air complaining about everything American. God only knows what he says to the students.

In fact I saw one of these guys cause an automobile accident last year. He pulled off on a busy highway that had no shoulder holding his hands up to stop traffic because a f***ing tortise was crossing the road. Three damaged vehicles, and two injured humans all so Captain Planet could save the day. Yeah I know this guy. :(

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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2006, 04:37:36 PM »
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Wow, dmf and nirvana, you guys are the masters of the obvious.

Funked has gone off the deep end lately, sorry to witness that.



I'm the mother of a 3 year old, you should see what I can do with the unobvious :D

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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2006, 04:59:34 PM »
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It's a bit odd.. but I don't see anything in there that defines fascism. Those traits are found in virtually every government.


I'm having a hard time trying to find the traits from any of the nordic countries. However it was easy pickings in the states, if only looked around for a bit. I haven't visited in the UK, but as far as I can tell, some of the traits are true there too, although that's not a big surprise, walking on a leash held by the US.

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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2006, 05:23:52 PM »
The list is almost dead on.  I think I've seen it before.  If I could change anything it would be the section about Religion.  Fascism is best known for using tools to grab more power.  It isn't necessary that Religion is used to gain power, but it is itself a powerful tool.


Btw, I find it odd that the writer didn't mention the largest Fascistic state to ever exist: The Soviet Union.
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« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2006, 05:32:14 PM »
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Btw, I find it odd that the writer didn't mention the largest Fascistic state to ever exist: The Soviet Union.


A socialistic state. The SU is the largest totalitarian state to ever exist.

besides, the list was of fascist countries the writer has examined, not a list of fascist states that have existed.
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« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2006, 05:38:08 PM »
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A socialistic state. The SU is the largest totalitarian state to ever exist.

besides, the list was of fascist countries the writer has examined, not a list of fascist states that have existed.


Is he rewriting history then? I would think that fascism would be defined by the first to claim and embrace it for their own. Italy comes to mind.

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« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2006, 06:03:56 PM »
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Is he rewriting history then? I would think that fascism would be defined by the first to claim and embrace it for their own. Italy comes to mind.


Uh, what do you mean? how do you get to that conclusion by my post?