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Offline AWMac

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« Reply #330 on: August 20, 2007, 01:04:49 PM »
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Reprehensible, AWMac.  I re-read the thread, brought up a lot of tough memories and many kind words from folks here, but not a single request from me for prayer.

 

Here's the thread:
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=138850&highlight=tsunami

Using my dead brother to push your agenda?  That's just...  bewildering.


I used a date that touched alotta people. Not just to you, reread my post Chairboy.  Use from it what you want yet you exactully know what I said.

Folks were Praying for the best. For all people.

I had stopped counting of 30 people Praying for you and your Brother.

I asked you one dam question.

Did you Pray?

Simple question... Yes or No?

BTW I just reread the entire post... not once did you ask anyone to NOT Pray for your Brother Chairboy.  Why?  If you didn't believe in Prayer then it would have been correct for you to respectfully to decline the thought of those praying for your Brother.

But let's NOT drag this off to you and Family sorrows.  All I asked you was did you yourself Pray?



Mac
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« Reply #331 on: August 20, 2007, 01:14:50 PM »
It seems you have an agenda to push with this Atheist thing across the board yet when it gets a bit personal it's not allowed.

Push your Agenda Chairboy... state a few more Anti Christian mumbo jumble...

Yet when yer Heart is ripped out again, and all seems lost and you seek help... who will YOU seek?

Get Real,

Mac

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« Reply #332 on: August 20, 2007, 01:18:09 PM »
You're a piece of work, AWMac.

No, I didn't pray, no more than you would pray for Santa.  You posted "yet you had all of us in here praying for your Brother." as if I was requesting prayer, I wasn't.  I printed out the thread for my family and those of them that are religious appreciated the prayers, those who were were comforted by the kind words and sentiments.

If the rest of the folks here agree with AWMac, then I've misjudged, and I'll refrain from posting about personal things again.

I received comfort from my friends here, not from an abstract concept of god.  If that's not good enough, or somehow makes my grief worthy of your criticism and it is accepted that it's ok for you to make fun of it, then my place is elsewhere, and I made a mistake when I came here.
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« Reply #333 on: August 20, 2007, 01:21:57 PM »
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You're a piece of work, AWMac.

No, I didn't pray, no more than you would pray for Santa.  You posted "yet you had all of us in here praying for your Brother." as if I was requesting prayer, I wasn't.  I printed out the thread for my family and those of them that are religious appreciated the prayers, those who were were comforted by the kind words and sentiments.


See?

Are you that Blind?

What point are you missing here?

You missed the entire thing.

Turn around and see what you missed.

Mac

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If the rest of the folks here agree with AWMac, then I've misjudged, and I'll refrain from posting about personal things again.


So now I need to feel sorry because yer an Atheist and the word Prayer pissed you off?

PahLeez Louise How old are you?  Are you living a Sheltered Life still?

Pffffft yer a Class Act.

Mac
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« Reply #334 on: August 20, 2007, 01:33:30 PM »
The word prayer didn't piss me off.  You using the death of my brother to push your "there are no atheists in foxholes" agenda did.
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« Reply #335 on: August 20, 2007, 01:40:12 PM »
Also, you made a clearly false statement, I called you on it and provided the link to the thread when you declined to procure the requested evidence.

You lied.  You brought my dead brother into the thread to try and prove a point, and now you're trying to weasel out of it.  That's super.
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« Reply #336 on: August 20, 2007, 01:41:46 PM »
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The word prayer didn't piss me off.  You using the death of my brother to push your "there are no atheists in foxholes" agenda did.


"there are no atheists in foxholes"  Sorry Bud but I have never seen one yet.  Have you ever served in the Military?  Ya know they even let Athiest in.

My question is you push a Atheist Agenda down everyones throat and yet I post a Date you you get all personal on me... All it was was a date in time.

If I posted the date on the Nuke over Hiroshimo would you have been just agressive in pushing your Agenda?

If the things in America don't fit you and you have probs with "In GOD We Trust" on coins then maybe America isn't the place for you.  

I'm sure there's a place somewhere.

Mac

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« Reply #337 on: August 20, 2007, 01:44:05 PM »
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To believe in an unprovable non-existence? Yes. It's unsupportable.

If you have no evidence supporting God's existence, it's best to simply say so, instead of trying to support an "absence of evidence is evidence of absence" standpoint.


Actually, I never took that position. If you look at my post which followed the one you quoted, I said the atheist and the believer, both came to a conclusion that could not be proved.

However, as I pointed out in that post, this is done all the time by people, (I would venture to say, yourself included), and it is not necessarily irrational. The only way to avoid this, is to"never" draw a conclusion about a great many things in life.

We hold many things to be true, that we have never "Seen", nor can we "Prove". The structure of the atom is a great example. You've never seen one, I've never seen one, but based on observations we have drawn conclusions about them. (There are allot of other examples of this is science.)

The origin of life is another. I would say life began some time in the past. However, I can't prove it began. Perhaps, life has simply always been. You can't prove otherwise. Even if we accept that life began sometime in the past if we use your line of reasoning, no one can ever draw a "Rational" conclusion about how life began, because we can never prove it.

So unless a person walks around refusing to every draw a conclusion (which seems irrational to me) they ultimately we accept a certain number of things as being true, without "Proof"

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« Reply #338 on: August 20, 2007, 01:45:15 PM »
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Also, you made a clearly false statement, I called you on it and provided the link to the thread when you declined to procure the requested evidence.

You lied.  You brought my dead brother into the thread to try and prove a point, and now you're trying to weasel out of it.  That's super.


Look pinhead... I brought up a Dec 26 2004 incident... never brought yer Brother into this just asked you if you Prayed then.

For you to make it personal is on you.  I asked you if you Prayed and you couldn't honestly answer.

So with that being said ChairBOY, I have nothing more to say to you.

GOD Bless You,

Mac

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« Reply #339 on: August 20, 2007, 01:53:04 PM »
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"Variation" is not an obstacle. Greed, fear, and evil are though.

 Good point Hap. I stand corrected.:aok
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« Reply #340 on: August 20, 2007, 02:10:49 PM »
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If you have probs with "In GOD We Trust" on coins then maybe America isn't the place for you.  

I'm sure there's a place somewhere.

Mac
Mac, you come off as a tard in this quote!  Sorry.

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« Reply #341 on: August 20, 2007, 02:13:14 PM »
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Mac, you come off as a tard in this quote!  Sorry.


Not a Prob... working on NOT being a Tard.

Made a point though.

Mac

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« Reply #342 on: August 20, 2007, 02:13:18 PM »
Mac,
  You need to read Colossians 3:1-17.
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« Reply #343 on: August 20, 2007, 02:14:30 PM »
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Mac,
  You need to read Colossians 3:1-17.
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Thanks Swoose...

I needed that....

Good timing.

Mac
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« Reply #344 on: August 20, 2007, 02:17:53 PM »
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Not a Prob... working on NOT being a Tard.

Made a point though.

Mac

Someone had a problem with it not being on ther too, maybe they should have left.  The point being, as long as we allow religion to be enacted as laws, then whatever the majority religion at the time, will make the laws to satisfy their faith.  I would rather take faith out of the system altogether and lets set a course based on what we know to be true.  Would you be happy if it said, "In Allah we trust"?  Maybe "In Buddah we trust"?  Even, "In Satan we trust"?  


How about just good ole, "One Cent".    mark

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