yak-9u tips

[Oogly50]

Hey... I've been flying for a while but I just now got acquainted with the yak-9u... any tips on flying it?  I mostly want tips on getting somebody off of my six.   That's all

[DamnedRen]

A yak flies like a spit on steroids. It can get fast without locking up quickly. It can climb from takeoff up to 13k at 230 without breaking a sweat.
It turn almost as well as the spit. Shortcomings...limited ammo and somewhat short legged.  A very nice ride!

Getting someone off your 6. If you see him coming at you then always turn to meet him. Stay away from HO shots. Just avoid and use the pass as an opportunity to grab. Your object is to get co-alt with him so as to deny him the alt advantage. If he stays in the fight and doesn't zoom go very aggressive and try to point your nose to his high 6. The object at this point is to saddle up on him not try for an "if I miss I'm dead shot". Another tactic is if you can get co-speed on his passes you can use it to neutralize the effectiveness of his attacks. Once you are co-speed it becomes a whole new ball game depending on aircraft differences.

It's very important to throughly know and understand the differences between  the planes. Your plane and your attackers plane. What can your plane do that his can't? Can you use that difference to your advantage?

There's alot more to it than just providing a canned answer to, "how do I get some guy off my 6". Spend some time in the training arena and learn how to do it. You will learn much faster than home grown trial and error.

I hope this helps.

[B@tfinkV]

no offence Ren,  you hardly describe someone 'being on your 6' in the furball sense. then i dont suppose youve had much experience at that. 'passes' only happen in BnZ fights, or very high alt/lo skill fights.


having someone on your 6 to most of us means he is latched on and a long way away from 'passing' you after missing his shot.


what you need to do in the yak to shake someone off your tail is the same as in any plane.

work out your opponents planes abilities and then work to make them overshoot your flight path.

there are many topics here to help your overshoot tech, just do a search for 'overshoot reversal' at the bottom of the training forum page.


and the yak most certainly is no a spit on steroids. its closer to mix of P51 and 109. flies absolutely nothing like a spit and if you atempt to fly it as you would a spit you will suffer hugely.

the Yaks strong points are speed, accel., climb and roll rate. stability is poor, especially in slow turns, but at speed it will loop very well with the correct throttle work.

S!

[DamnedRen]

Thanks for your input BatfinkV.

Oogly50, Whenever you'd like to meet me in the TA I'd be happy to show you what I'm taking about.

Rgds,

[Hazard69]

Another few points......
Yaks are partial to radiator hits IMHO (even a couple of 50cal hits will do it). So as mentioned earlier do not attempt any HeadOn shots.

Do not attempt to take a shot in a Yak9U beyond 400 yards. You're low on ammo and even if you do ge some hits, at these ranges theres very little damage. Aim to hit at under 200 yards. You can by all means shoot at 400 yards in a Yak9T, but probability of a hit is low that far out.

The Yak outturns most of the planes that can match it for speed. For those that it cant outturn, it can usually outrun.

Even with some1 at your six, the Yaks small size makes it real difficult to hit. Use only small evasive movements so as not to bleed away your E too much. The Yaks excellent roll rate is very useful for these.

Im willing to bet that you didnt die cause somebody got onto your 6. You died cause whilst you blew away all your E shaking that guy off your6, some other guy saddled up and then you couln't shake him.

The trick with flying the Yak, as with most others is E management and good SA.

[Sketch]

Low on the deck up to about 8k is prime speed areas for her.  If you get it level on the deck she runs like crazy and even better I believe at 8k...

But I have been wrong before.....  

I love flying the Yak, both models... great planes!!

[Roscoroo]

try a Yak all the way upstairs  25-30k area .. it becomes a totally different animal ... its really fast and turns sweet .. (It also scares the hell outta the p-38 guys )
Down low to mid alts it has a pritty sweet spiral climb that can help alot to .

keep it fast and extend .. if you start cutting the angles in it you better not miss .

[TexMurphy]

I love the Yak, its one of my favo planes in game.

Its best defensive attribute is that it out runs what it cant out manouver. Just study and learn which planes you can out run and which ones you have to out manouver.

When flying be very weary about getting caught in situations where you have more agile planes with more E around you. This is something that always applies as long as your not flying super fast planes or super agile planes.

If you see say a Hurrie2c high then make sure to extend, climb and deal with him first. Always deal with the biggest threat.

Im very tempted to use the cliche that the best way to protect your six is to not allow the enemy to gain it unless you WANT him there. I know it's a cliche but its soo true.

Still its equaly true that you will end up in situations when you have a enemy on your six and you cant get away.

What you do wana do in the Yak is to use the small profile to your advantage. The plane is so small that it is hard to judge the exact distance. Its closer then it appears. This makes it the ideal plane to force overshots in. So barrell rolls, quick energy bleeds, snap rolls and scissors are your friends. The Yak isnt as good scissorer as its roll rate isnt that good.

If you have some alt left the snap roll into a Split - S is a good idea.

Given that its easy to create over shots in a Yak I do actually give away my six quite alot intentionally inorder to set up overshots. But before you start doing that you have to have a set of reverse manouvers that you can pull with high precission.

Tex

[SuperDud]

Little trick I learned when I got an aggressive spit, or any plane than can out dogfight you, above me is to enter a shallow dive(of coarse you need alt as well for this). If the enemy is aggressive and follows the excellent speed of the yak can quickly equalize E states and from there you can gain the upper hand.

[BugsBunny]

Yak is not even close to a spit.  Try to fly it like one and you will die.  Either do what SuperDud said, or try slow down the fight.  Then you can either out clime them or out excelerate them.  It depends on how close on your six they are, but out climing them is one of the best ways to get away.  If you want to stay for the fight, then do what Super said.  Get some speed and then loop them to death.

[TexMurphy]

Originally posted by BugsBunny
Yak is not even close to a spit.  Try to fly it like one and you will die.  Either do what SuperDud said, or try slow down the fight.  Then you can either out clime them or out excelerate them.  It depends on how close on your six they are, but out climing them is one of the best ways to get away.  If you want to stay for the fight, then do what Super said.  Get some speed and then loop them to death.

Ehhhh NO!!!

You do not want to make it a rule of thumb to slow down the fight. In fact you never want to slow it down.

You want to keep your energy up. Do not burn it off unless your forced into a situation where you have to create an overshoot. Still though you dont want to slow it down more then just enough to create an overshoot.

The Yak handles well at slow speeds sure but its NOT a slow speed fighter like a Zekke or Hurrie.

If you are fighting a slower and more agile plane you do wana keep playing energy games on the opponent inorder to suck him out of energy so that you can get a good shot at him.

If you are fighting a faster and less agile enemy you still dont wana slow it down. You want to keep the speed up because you will still outmanouver him, the yak has great manouverability. Most important though you do want to keep the speed up to prevent the most dangerous situation there is for a yak, getting caught by a slower/more agile plane with more E then you.

Tex

[Roscoroo]

yep, dont Slow down in a yak ... try to hide your E amount .. its easy to do in the small yak ..  when you manuver try to use a turn that will regain your lost E fast enough that you can escape and extend on your prey .(things can go sour for a yak once it gets slow .)

if you Try to fly the yak like a spit you'll ussually lose , it cant regain speed as fast as spit once it gets slow .

[Oogly50]

Thanks for the tips guys, really great, I will be sure to try these out.

[MjTalon]

yes, thanks everyone for posting this information about the yak. I'm currently piloting a yak and I'm considering becoming a full time yak stick since it suits me just fine:aok

[Snubby]

I love the 9U just because it has JUST enough ammo to get the job done, not enough to get you in trouble..


that and if you get on.. pretty much any other plane's 6.. their ass, your nose, like velcro..