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« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2006, 10:27:14 PM »
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God willing, when I get out of school this December and pass the first actuarial exam I'll start between 50-60k, and probably be making close to 100k in 3 or 4 years.  That is 3 or 4 years against the 30 years that my father has been working.



Are you paying for your school and working?

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« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2006, 10:28:58 PM »
Working part time, school loans are financing the vast majority.

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« Reply #77 on: October 31, 2006, 10:29:56 PM »
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Working part time, school loans are financing the vast majority.


Thats good.

I was just wondering if your dad had anything to do with it.

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« Reply #78 on: October 31, 2006, 10:31:46 PM »
Oh no, no a penny :).  

He's never offered, and I've never asked... it is high time he starts enjoying his life and his money.  Plus he is actually eligible for retirement soon, I think around 5 years or so.

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« Reply #79 on: October 31, 2006, 10:35:32 PM »
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Oh no, no a penny :)


Well, then that's a very good thing to be proud of. I was initially thinking that you might have had some help from your parents in order to go to school and work part time.

Your dad sounds like he is a smart, hard working man. America is a great country and anyone willing to work can succeed here.

Even a dip watermelon like myself can do well here.

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« Reply #80 on: October 31, 2006, 10:42:10 PM »
From this thread, we can assume the obvious, the military is getting smarter, and Kerry is getting dumber.

All he does is marry ugly rich desperate women.

Thankfully he has yet to put in for a Purple Heart for his having to vote for the Iraq war, but it isn't over yet.
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« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2006, 12:15:59 AM »
You guys need to quit wasting your time paying attention to retards, and start electing people who actually do their job caring for the country's needs.
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« Reply #82 on: November 01, 2006, 12:29:04 AM »
i dont see how people reading my postings has anything to do with the quality of our.gov

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« Reply #83 on: November 01, 2006, 01:16:27 AM »
Having your wit would be a good deal of the problem taken care of..
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« Reply #84 on: November 01, 2006, 03:18:12 AM »
A nice try, but the Back-pedal of the Decade Award still goes to Mr. "We were never 'stay the course'." A cheeky classic.
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« Reply #85 on: November 01, 2006, 03:55:32 AM »
being 'educated' simply means you had no clue how to earn a decent wage without jumping through the hoops of your society. once the hoops have been navigated succesfully you get a piece of paper letting future employers know that you are good at jumping through hoops.
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« Reply #86 on: November 01, 2006, 04:10:56 AM »
i just wanted to learn more stuff.


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« Reply #87 on: November 01, 2006, 06:01:08 AM »
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being 'educated' simply means you had no clue how to earn a decent wage without jumping through the hoops of your society. once the hoops have been navigated succesfully you get a piece of paper letting future employers know that you are good at jumping through hoops.


Well, there is a certain degree of jumping through hoops, but then again there is in any job, I'd imagine (or, at least there could be, dependent on your boss, the client, etc.)

What I will say about college as opposed to say carpentry is you are certainly exposed to many different viewpoints and opportunities.  For example, the past few years or so we've had the ambassador from Syria, a few ambassadors and other officials from Israel, a congressional debate, the guy from Hotel Rwanda, sweat shop workers from a few Latin American states, President Bush, and a host of others come and speak at my university.

I would never, ever get those opportunities if I went off with my friends and became a carpenter.  Not a chance.

Also - do you honestly think that it's easy to go to college?  I mean, if you're grumpy with the jerk who's daddy pays his way and then he settles for C's...  Yeah, I'll agree, they're chumps (and wasting their time IMO)...  But getting high marks and something out of college is damn hard work.  It takes a lot of effort and this "commitment" thing that keeps popping up in this thread.
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« Reply #88 on: November 01, 2006, 06:55:32 AM »
The problem is that college turns out as many fools and idiots as it does well educated people, if not more. But the fools and idiots end up in jobs that are way over paid in the current top heavy corporate environment.

The truth is, one realy big reason hands on blue collar jobs don't pay what they should is that too much is wasted paying mid and upper level management that consists mostly of non essential at best, if not completely useless or worse detrimental positions. And it isn't just people like me who say that (I have two years of college) it's people I worked with who were well educated, holding degrees in engineering and the like.

We have people in this country getting $50K a year and up to "manage" or "supervise" (and I use the term VERY loosely) retail personnel, when they cannot even stock a shelf or run a cash register. Why? Because they have a "degree" in "business management". That is not a rare occurence, it is a VERY common occurence. People like that are worse than non essential. They make the jobs of those below them twice as difficult, and they draw a salary that would pay two more people to run a register or stock a shelf, or wait on a customer. In order to pay an idiot with a degree, a group of people deal with stupidity that makes their job difficult, and a customer pays more for goods and gets poorer service.

I have a daughter in college, pre law to be specific. It is now worse, much worse, than it was when I was there 20 years ago. Never in my life have I seen more useless and baseless drivel written by people so out of touch with reality as I have in looking at some of her course material. Every cycle college becomes further removed from reality. What we have in "acedemia" now for instructors and authors of the books they use is people completely removed from the real world, and instead merely "educated" and insulated from that reality. And it continually gets worse.

We have a nation filled with educated idiots. These people populate mid management level positions and higher, and do NOTHING to contribute to the production of quality goods and services, and in fact most often greatly hinder the same, often to a great degree, and only increase the cost, by drawing a salary for making the cost go up. And yet we sit and wonder why we've lost our edge, why we continue to slip as a world economic power. All because Johnny and Jane got a "degree". One of the greatest obstacles to survival for this country is not the "ignorant" working man who has a high school diploma or a GED instead of a college degree. No, it is the STUPID "educated" person who supervises him simply because he has a BS, MS, or Phd, and cannot find his ASS with both hands and a manual on the subject.
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« Reply #89 on: November 01, 2006, 07:02:59 AM »
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Also - do you honestly think that it's easy to go to college?  I mean, if you're grumpy with the jerk who's daddy pays his way and then he settles for C's...  Yeah, I'll agree, they're chumps (and wasting their time IMO)...  But getting high marks and something out of college is damn hard work.  It takes a lot of effort and this "commitment" thing that keeps popping up in this thread.


Vudak, if you have graduated, or do graduate, from college actually having gotten a real education, then yes, you've worked for it and you've earned it. My sincere congratulations to you.

The problem is the five that graduated with you who did not (or will graduate with you and do not).

You can get through college without learning and without getting any sort of education, and get a degree, just like you can get through high school and do the same thing.

The difference is that college degree will get you a position that pays a lot more than the average educated idiot I've seen with a college degree is worth, and allows you to do a lot of harm and damage.

So, if you've done it right, then to you I offer a well deserved "way to go". Just don't allow yourself to be fooled into believing that even a majority of those you shared the halls with have done the same as you. They haven't.
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