In Pearl Harbor why do the IJN have the A6M5?

[SkyGnome]

Originally posted by Brooke
Well, I've spent about 100 hours researching, finding references, posting them in the rules, working to make it as historical as playability and constraints of the game seem to allow.

Granted, this is work I've done based on my knowledge and judgement, so I can't and don't claim it's perfect.  Still, I'm hoping it at least is not lacking "any sense of historicality".

a6m5's for me is the change to make that is *least* disruptive to historical elements and being most directly fair considering the US aircraft mix.  That's why I recommend it.

I meant no offense, and you sort of took my statement out of context.  I didn't say that the rules lacked any sense of historicallity, just that if one starts reading them with the intent to critique the historicallity, they'll find a lot to complain about.  However, if one approaches it looking for a good aircraft matchup, one will find less to complain about.

I appreciate your work, and have a great deal of respect for the work you've done in the past.

[Brooke]

Thanks, SkyGnome.  I do like as much historical aspect as we can manage and still have playability -- and I shouldn't be touchy!

Culero, good points.

[Brooke]

Folks, we are going to have a test in the Special Events Arena on Sunday (sort of a pre-beta).  If you can participate, please join us and show up at 3 pm Eastern Standard Time, noon Pacific, 8 pm UK time, 10 pm Finland time.

We are going to test an engagement between US and IJN forces representative of the mix of planes on day 1 of the battle.  We are going to see if the IJN needs a6m5's or not.

[Softail]

Im sawing off the tail cone on my B-17 and rigging up a fixed .30 Cal browning to be fired remotely from the waist gunner position ;-)  

Should be fun ;-)

[BlauK]

This test time is overlapping with Close Escort... is it not?

My experiences today at EWA with the early Zero.. 4 sorties, twice ack hit me and lit my plane in fire with first hit.... that means about 10 seconds to live.

I truly hope PH puffy ack will not be like that

[Panzzer]

Originally posted by BlauK
This test time is overlapping with Close Escort... is it not?

From the Close Escort forum:
Close Escort Tour Six
Frame One of Operation Husky: the Invasion of Sicily
Sunday, November 5th 1500 hours (3 pm est)

Already got the e-mail about the test session... Maybe we'll see a lot of people for the Close Escort - or a different kind of a CE.

How about having the test on Saturday at the same time, or would that be too soon?

[ROC]

Ahh Geez, I thought that slot was empty, This wont work darnit.

How about Saturday instead?  Dang it!!  I hate missing things like that.

[ROC]

Blauk, ack is going to be mild, we want the players to get the kills, not the AI

[EagleEyes]

I see the reasonings now.  From what i understood, it was going to be just P-40Bs for the Americans.  I thought it would be rather rediculous to have both versions of the Zero.  But now seeing Americans get the F4F and stuff, i can agree that the IJN should get the Late model.  But i say we wait and see what happens during Beta testing, and if there are problems, lets correct them!  This way, we wont have a repeat of "Operation Downfall" and the many complications it had.



On a personal note, if anyones looken for command spots, im more then willing to help.  If you want details on my experiance with Scenarios, feel free to PM me and ill give ya the details.  I have no idea who are the COs and who needs what, im just saying in general..........


HOOK ME UP BROTHERS!!

[Brooke]

I'll resend all the info.

BlauK, thanks for spotting that -- I should have checked.

Let's have the pre-beta test on Saturday at 3 pm Eastern Standard Time.

[Brooke]

Just sent out the following.

ROC, is there anyone we need to notify to reserve the Special-Events Arena for that time?

Hello, all.

My apologies.  The previously announced time for this test session was already taken.

We will have the Pearl Harbor pre-beta test in the Special Events Arena.  It will be Saturday, November 4, at 3 pm Eastern Standard Time, noon Pacific, 8 pm UK time, 10 pm Finland time.

Again, the more who show up, the better the test will be.  I hope all of you can show up.  We will run an approximation of day 1 of the Pearl Harbor scenario to test out various play-balance settings (such as seeing if we should have any a6m5's in the mix of aircraft).

Best regards,

-- Brooke

[daddog]

We are going to test an engagement between US and IJN forces representative of the mix of planes on day 1 of the battle. We are going to see if the IJN needs a6m5's or not.

Well that is fair and I could not ask for more. I was going to hammer home some more points concerning some things you posted above, but you are more than willing to look at this from both sides. I can’t ask for more.

All I can say at this point is with so many variables at work in an event like this it would be difficult to judge if the A6M5 is needed or the IJN should only have the A6M2. Each test could come out with very different outcomes negating each end result. Granted the Americans have some late model versions, but the A6M5 just seems to subtract from the event IMHO.

[Easyscor]

Seems to me the only justification for the A6m5 would be the five B-17Gs.  Much as I'd like a B-17, I'd have to say dump all the B-17s so you don't need the A6m5.  Besides, any zeke that goes after a B-17 would be dog-meat anyway. Put the pilots into Bostons or TBMs.  Keep that in mind Saturday during the Beta.

Do we have the terrain already?

[troon]

What is the difference between the a6m2 and the a6m5, all i can see is upgraded weapons?

[mussie]

Originally posted by Easyscor
Seems to me the only justification for the A6m5 would be the five B-17Gs.  Much as I'd like a B-17, I'd have to say dump all the B-17s so you don't need the A6m5.  Besides, any zeke that goes after a B-17 would be dog-meat anyway. Put the pilots into Bostons or TBMs.  Keep that in mind Saturday during the Beta.

Do we have the terrain already?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

We gotta save the B-17 PPL