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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2007, 12:24:57 AM »
I think if I was lazys i'd say you're a nanny.  I'm not so I won't and willl just think it.

Fraud and identity theft are big deals.  I used to do just that working for an insurance company and hang them just like saddam as far as i'm concerned.  too many ruined lives over it and for 463 or whatever dollars it just seems so stupid to hurt families the way they do.
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« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2007, 12:41:56 AM »
Yeah, I remember Diablo. We actually train our kids, but sometimes slip-up's still happen. I gladly replace any damage.

B@tfink, The guy WAS trying to take money out of MY pocket. My bonus is tied to how many bad checks I take. My job performance is tied to it as well. I have no simpathy for a thief. I have had more than my share of thefts both personal and professional. Any chance I get at payback is pennies from heaven.

Telling the guy the cops are on the way is becoming an accomplice to a crime. I sure hope you never work for me or any business near me. Seriously, you are just letting him run down the street and steal from some other innocent person. The guy is not Robin Hood, he's a thief and probably a drug addict. He will get the social help he needs to break the cycle while he is incarcerated and moreso later on parole. He will have to pass drug tests and keep a steady job or he will go back to jail.

If he's broke and his kids are hungry, I can get him free food. I'm not giving him free money.
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« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2007, 12:43:36 AM »
RPM: right you are sir, and as i said, had it been my own personal store i might be more inclined to bust him.

i do not disagree with your actions and it sounds like you played it as cool as a poker master in a $100,000 hand

very well done :aok


edit: my post may have seemed like an attack on your actions, my apologies i only ever intend to share my personal opinions (often very misguided ones) and in no way was i hinting that you did the wrong thing.


you did the right thing and you did it with 110% skill, something that a large proportion of folk dont have the quick mind to accomplish.




Golfer: go ahead an think it. i've never been a 'good, upstanding, law abiding citizen' and i do not intend to start now.

hell, i'll go ahead and admit im a criminal in many minor cases.



rape my sister: im going to kill you, not call the cops.


try to blag some money out of a shop with a fake ID: i'll just laugh at you and tell you to stop being a retard before you screwup your life even further.






only time in my life i have called the cops was about 4 years ago when a maniac stole an ambulance somewhere near Guildford at about 2am. I was riding my KH-125 lawn mower bike down to see a girlfriend and this avacado came screeching round a corner in the middle of the road and forced me to swerve up onto the curb and crash into a bush at about 15mph.


i called the cops on that bastard and i hope he got busted.


theres just something inherantly wrong about 'near death by maniac ambulance driver' that got me pissed off.
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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2007, 12:49:33 AM »
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this avacado came screeching round a corner in the middle of the road and forced me to swerve up onto the curb and crash into a bush at about 15mph.


i called the cops on that bastard and i hope he got busted.



haaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha

Guess thats just a difference between "you" and "us"

RPM took matters into his own hands when something like that can go downhill very quickly.  He did everything right and justice was served.  Giving a pass to a thief of any level is the wrong thing to do.  Too bad we don't have the death penalty for tha.t

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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2007, 12:57:00 AM »
Goodness, B@tfink.  While you may have been hoping that we'd all see you as "just a good ol' boy, never doin' no harm" and "just a little bit more than the law allows", instead you come across as a ethically empty small time thief.

You would only stop a thief who was robbing your store if you owned the store yourself?  It's ok for him to take money from OTHER people and ruin OTHER people's lives through identity theft?

One of the movies we recently had on endless repeat (2 and 4 year old boys, that's how it is) was 'Barnyard'.  One little line in there that I'm reminded of is this:

"A strong man stands up for himself, a stronger man stands up for others."

You're definitely not a stronger man.
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2007, 12:58:27 AM »
i have never seen it as my duty to protect anyone but my loved ones.

please read my post above to see that i highly commend RPM for his quick thinking and talented acting




for me personaly (thats the bit you might be finding hard to get)  a coke head or bad gambler that tried to steal my money is something to laugh about as the chances of him pulling that scam off on me are next to none. a maniac who almost kills me on the road has already affected me, he scratched my bike.



now....if said petty thief/gambler/addict leaves my store after i laugh at him, goes on to rob the store next door, then it affects me in no different a way than if he went to jail.  the poor shop owner he scamed needs to learn not to let that happen again. If i had relations with the local community, i would alert them to this fellow and let them fend for themselves.


now......... if said petty thief/gambler/addict leaves my store and goes on to steal an ambulance and run me off the road, killing me, then maybe not reporting him was a bad idea and i may try to send a quick email from hell to you guys to let you know i was wrong.
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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2007, 01:03:53 AM »
Is this an example of what the increasingly nanny-ish laws of England are producing?  Is B@tfink an example of what a society that expects the government to do all the heavy lifting for him produces?  Are we just a few years from seeing that over here as a side effect of the crazy sprint we're in to get rid of any remnants of personal responsibility?

Jury, your honor, I present my evidence.  The above poster.  Thank you.
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« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2007, 01:15:29 AM »
Originally posted by Chairboy
Goodness, B@tfink.  While you may have been hoping that we'd all see you as "just a good ol' boy, never doin' no harm" and "just a little bit more than the law allows", instead you come across as a ethically empty small time thief.

lol if you say so, i really love your assumptions about 'me wanting you to think'. Only a complete pawn or egotistic looser gives there opinion and taylors it to make sure other think well of them before speaking the mind's own full truth. I dont give a rats arse what you think of me but if you like me i wont complain.

 i havnt stolen anything since i was caught trying to steal a porno mag with a friend from a newsagents when i was about 12 years old. i have never commited any crime that has hurt another living being.



You would only stop a thief who was robbing your store if you owned the store yourself?  It's ok for him to take money from OTHER people and ruin OTHER people's lives through identity theft?


you have no clue what a 'ruined life' is if you think losing a few bucks is 'ruined'

he wasnt 'robbing the store' he was trying to scam a few notes. he wsnt an armed nutter with a 12gauge and a black mask, he was a weak minded fool who wanted to 'steal' without the risk of taking anything by force.

anyhow, i still stopped him stealing from me. not only that but i gave him a chance to change his ways without being labld as a criminal. most likely he will go try to rob someone else, in which case a fine gentleman such as yourself may be around to do 'the right thing' for everybody.




"A strong man stands up for himself, a stronger man stands up for others."

You're definitely not a stronger man.



as usualy you cast your brand out with wild eyes and a forked tounge from a possition of almighty righteousness.

I have stood up for many people and many causes, often with no chance of reward, and great detriment to my 'reputation'. i do this because i feel they deserve it.

on the other hand you are the man who thinks he is standing for something worthwhile. you're not standing up for anything but the most obvious cause. no imagination there sadly. you are standing up for the law.


had you considered that this poor apple of an individual that needs this money might not be so different to you.




you would be amazed what you change into when you lose your 'saftey net lifestyle' and find yourself in the gutter with no way of finding your next meal let alone living through the freezing winter night.

sure, he may have been a low life drug addict.

he may have a story, he may be more despeate than you will ever know with your central heating and monthly bills all easily covered......enough so 'you and the wife' can afford to go out right after christmas and buy a brand new games console to sit on your $1000 leather sofa infront of your $3000  plasma screen TV playing super mario brothers and laughing at the dregs of society who should 'just get a job and be like me'

what if your perfectly raised child found themself in need of money and desperate enough to steal it......would you call the cops on your own kid or would you try to discipline them yourself?







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Is this an example of what the increasingly nanny-ish laws of England are producing? Is B@tfink an example of what a society that expects the government to do all the heavy lifting for him produces? Are we just a few years from seeing that over here as a side effect of the crazy sprint we're in to get rid of any remnants of personal responsibility?

Jury, your honor, I present my evidence. The above poster. Thank you.





you're so good chairboy, i hope your government truly appreciates your helpfull nature, and when you get old and grey i hope they give you a nice little pension to die on.

if i saw an old lady in my village getting mugged i would physically step in and lose my life to defend the old stranger who i never knew.

what you fail to see, my self righteous noble community member, is that your leaders and police forces are populated with criminals far more than your shops and streets.

essentially, you are reporting a criminal who has no power to a possible criminal who has vast power.

someone is laughing at you.

you're just acting as the eyes, ears....and handcuffs for the criminals that you are too foolish to see, not only that but you do it free of charge and feel good about it.

the only real rules to life that i follow, that you can be certain will be returned to you, is to look out for number one and trust no one who has control over anything important.




but i wouldnt expect the average 'sheep in the flock' to be able to think that far outside the square, and i thought you were quite bright.


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please note: all the above text is not an attack on RPM or his actions, as should be quite clear by now. this is a direct response to a personal attack that i see as being far below the belt and way far off the mark.
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« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2007, 01:57:09 AM »
None taken.
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2007, 01:58:43 AM »
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quack quack quack quack quack quack quack

Lots of typing there, feeling a bit defensive?

BTW, I wouldn't get a Plasma, didn't you see that I'd recommend DLP?
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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2007, 02:08:46 AM »
quack?

this is a forum for debate, no?   seems you dont like to 'debate'. you like to accuse, run away, then come back and make duck jokes because you have no clue how to deal with the thoughts of someone so different to you.


if you feel no need to continue your line of debate then so be it, but your last post is just childish and cowardly....have to hand it to you though, your diversions from the obvious topic in question are subtle and calculated.



defensive? oh so let me see you have called me a small time thief, not a strong enough man to deffend someone else, a nanny and best of all 'evidence' that England is crap.....and im not supposed to become defensive? LOLS @ you.


i particularly like the part where you accuse me of 'letting the government do the heavy work for me'. so there i am taking a criminal matter into my own hands and offering a chance for a correction in the perps life choices without the need to involve the local authority....and there you are instantly discarding the problem into the hands of the police and prison services.....and you have the nerve to tell me I am the one who lets the government do the work for me.

personaly i feel i have hijacked RPMs topic more than enough by now, and what started as a means for congratulations and possible light hearted debate about criminal ethics.

feel free to make a '3 jihadists enter a bar and the barman says...' joke instead of directly answering me :aok
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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2007, 02:15:02 AM »
Bat, you have to understand.  Across the pond here we're a little freakin' tired of criminals actually having more rights then victims.  That's what I experienced at Office Depot.  What RPM did is the exception, not the norm.  I makes me glad that any POS trying to work the system gets busted.  I don't care how small or harmless it may seem, all punks need to get busted; be they crackheads or politicians.
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« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2007, 02:22:59 AM »
Bat,

Don't take it too personally, but you're really coming across as a great example of "everything that is wrong with the UK".  The US is creeping in that direction, but we still have some hotheads in the population that consider anti-social behavior to be everyone's problem, not just the immediate victim of each individual crime.

You'll turn in a thief if he almost runs you over, but if it doesn't affect you immediately then you'll let him continue free to harm others?  Even though when that thief harms others and it eventually harms you through increased insurance rates or higher prices at stores he's stolen from, you would still rather let him go because he isn't immediately affecting you?

That is a nearly perfect example of why the UK is going to hell... It's a purely shortsighted and selfish attitude, and it's led to a whole underclass of criminals that are turning the UK into a cesspool.  I've experienced this firsthand...  Everyone knows that burglars in Cambridge go door to door profiling the houses, but nobody does anything because they were there to turn them away.  But then someone's house get burgaled.  Does anyone do anything the next time their house gets checked out?  No, they just buy a stronger lock and whine about the kids these days, hoping that someone else will deal with the problem and hoping their locks will hold better than their neighbors.  But it's not just the kids doing it, the locks don't hold forever, and the govt isn't going to be able to do anything as long as the decent population gives the criminals a pass.

The year before I moved to Cambridge, it was the guy next door to where I lived that got robbed.  2 weeks before I moved out, it was my turn.  Even after the burglary, the cops were suprised at how involved I was in the investigation.  I guess most people in Cambridge, even after being robbed, still consider it to be "someone else's problem" and don't really care.

As for other posters calling you a small time thief, you said it yourself in an earlier post that you're on the wrong side of the law on similarly petty things...  

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i've never been a 'good, upstanding, law abiding citizen' and i do not intend to start now.

hell, i'll go ahead and admit im a criminal in many minor cases.


So you occasionally commit crimes, you think that's ok, but you're not a petty criminal?  Should I ask you what you did with my 42" hitachi?  Or maybe you just gave the thief a pass because it wasn't your house he broke into?
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« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2007, 02:41:09 AM »
It wasn't too long ago in the US when if you saw someone riding a stolen horse and didn't do something about it, you might get hung right along with the horse thief.
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« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2007, 02:46:21 AM »
diablo: good point and i understand your side of t.

eagl: no offence taken.

petty criminal? sure thing. i smoke a bit of weed, thus helping the dealers to get rich. i drive 45mph in a 40mph zone. when the bank screws up and credits me by mistake i will hopefully withdraw the money before they can corect it. when i need a song i'll readily go ahead and burn a copy from a mate rather than buy it from a shop. when a group of local lads that i know ask me to go and buy them some beer from the offlicence because they are only 17 years old i may just help them out if i know them and i have time.


petty thief? no sir.







the problems with the UK?  come on now, lets be honest, the problems are not caused by anything other than todays lifestyles.

 big cities. big business. big money. big people. small minds


all of the above lead to a society that cares for nothing but its own agenda.


in a small village, a thief is quickly branded and outcast in the same way it would have happened 400 years ago. possibly without having an arm chopped off these days but still the same social methods.

far from being selfish, my line here is that ive called his bluff, ive stopped the robbery, and ive given the perp a chance to change without paying the full price. shelfish maybe to the next person that gets robbed. over generous to the perp for sure.

'somebody elses problem'

while seemingly true in this case, i would beg to deny that being my motives. ive already said i would do everything in my imediate power to warn my community.

if this was about a murder, a rape, child molesting....i would be right out the door with the mind to head right down the police station and let them know.  a crackhead trying to scam a few bucks? no. (again, please disasociate these thoughts from RPMS situation. i'm certainly not saying he did anything other than a smart, brave and community spirited thing. all credit where it is due. he is a better man than me for the effort he has put in for his local area, and nothing i say is an attempt to take that away.)


i live in a village on the outskirts of the suburban sprawl of London. walking home from town takes 30 mins and 90% is right down a straight main road. i regularly walk home from my girlfriends house at 4am and never take anything valuable because history has taught me that i will most likely be mugged on the way.  ive been mugged at knife point and walked away with no mind to call the police. they will never respond in time to catch the guys red handed, and they will never care enough to follow the leads up and hunt them down. even if they somehow do catch the two salamanders that mugged me, two more are waiting round the corner to snatch the available 'turf' for thier 'work'.   with the first two muggers in action, the second two do not commit crimes in that area because they will get beaten down like a male lion trying to take over the pride. this is human nature.  If i take the dominat males off the circuit, i only open the gap for the weaker criminals to start working that spot.

It is a never ending cycle and unfortunately the rate at which people are being locked up is far slower than the rate at which criminals are born into the world.

stop the murderer and you have done a semi justice to the murdered, and maybe stopped future murders.

stop a petty criminal that will only open the door for the hierachy to move up a level is hardly worth the 2 hours you will spend trying to get the police to give a watermelon and more than likely to earn you an enemy that has nothing to lose and finds the idea of revenge quite enjoyable.

if they were going to lock them away and throw away the key, maybe its worth it, but they wont. the perps will be out on bail the same day and commiting crimes within a few hours of release. no different an outcome to just telling them to **** off. if they are going to change as a human being it wont come from being locked up. possibly the generous kindness i may display in letting them run off with thier tail between thier legs will be more likely to change them than calling 'the pigs' on them.

in my opinion, the governments and people in control are the biggest criminals on the planet. the claim to be capable of running the lives of millions of lifeforms for the 'better of all'.

bullchit.

they do thier 'job' to earn money for themselves. if they were desperate, straving, drug crazed and freezing to death they would rapidly become criminals to survive.


putting one crack head behind bars is not going to change the sick and twisted way humanity has been run for 4000 years.

i fully understand your points, and i think most people in Cambridge are over paid upper class tosspots who wouldnt touch a criminal for fear of being infected with a common man's stench.

the true English community enjoys a good tar and feather just the same as any folk.






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