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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2007, 09:17:29 AM »
I embrace (not embody) the spirit of technological innovation, but not to the tune of $3K for a device that can eventually get hot enough to ignite a match if I hold it steady.

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2007, 09:30:40 AM »
Yeah, but sharks with frikkin' Red Ryders strapped to their heads is just lame.
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2007, 10:06:03 AM »
There's a book I've probably mentioned before that's relevant to this discussion, it's called 'The Innovators Dilemma'.  It talks about the concept of disruptive technology, something that isn't necessarily cheaper or better when it first appears, but can end up replacing existing technology because it eventually becomes BOTH cheaper and better.  A good example is hydraulics vs. cable operated earth movers.  The cable operated stuff came first, and was wide spread in the industry.  A company thinks "hey, hydraulics would be handy" and makes a ditch digger (bobcat) for tractors.  In the beginning, it's more expensive and less capable technology, but the company keeps developing it because there are advantages, including scalability and safety.

Eventually, the first big hydraulic earth movers start showing up.  They aren't as powerful as the cable operated beasts, and they're more expensive, but they keep developing.  By the time the cable-operated earthmover companies realized that hydraulics (which the had dismissed) were the future, it was too late for them to mount effective R&D campaigns.  Not a single one of the major manufacturers survived the transition to hydraulics.  Same thing happened with the transition from 8" HDs to 5.25" HD platters, or from 5.25" platters to 3.5" platters, except one or two companies survived the last transition because they saw what happened previously.

Laser hand weapons are currently less capable, more expensive, and less practical than chemical hand weapons.  But will that always be the case?  Consider this:  No moving parts.  Energy storage is improving every day.  Toys that used to use relays and moving contacts to have blinking lights and make sounds are using little IC chips now because they're more reliable and cheaper to build than mechanical toys with moving parts.  

With this in mind, I have no doubt that it's possible that cheap and reliable energy weapons will be in our future.  The history of technology development pretty much guarantees it.  They may not be 'phasers' or buck rogers death ray pistols, but the promise of lower production cost and higher potential reliability is hard to beat.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2007, 11:47:43 AM »
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I embrace (not embody) the spirit of technological innovation, but not to the tune of $3K for a device that can eventually get hot enough to ignite a match if I hold it steady.


Everything big, impressive and practical starts small, overpriced and novel, as Chairboy said... $3k or not, when something the size of a pen can burn through something from across the room, I start imagining what they'll do in another 5-10 years.

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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2007, 02:26:31 PM »
Time to research and find a few small companies to drop some money into that are on the edge of this research and development.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2007, 02:47:08 PM »
Why is the 40mW blue laser more expensive than a 300mW green laser?

The blue of course has as smaller wavelength allowing for more energy to penetrate, but I'd rather have the larger wavelength in most instances in order to transfer more energy to the target's surface.

A thousand bucks cheaper for 300 mW vs 40, I'd have to go green.

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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2007, 02:49:37 PM »
"death ray"

Which reminds me of this article, which is about Lockheed's new aircraft laser, a 100-KW model which could "selectively destroy ground targets such as communication lines, power grids, and fuel dumps, or even target the fuel tanks on vehicles" and might potentially enter service in 2015.

The article is worried that people might be accidentally blinded by the laser, although at the same time it seems totally oblivious to the possiblity that it might be used to kill people, by slicing them up like in Logan's Run.

Instant countermeasure = polished tin-foil.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2007, 03:10:57 PM »
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"death ray"

Which reminds me of this article, which is about Lockheed's new aircraft laser, a 100-KW model which could "selectively destroy ground targets such as communication lines, power grids, and fuel dumps, or even target the fuel tanks on vehicles" and might potentially enter service in 2015.

The article is worried that people might be accidentally blinded by the laser, although at the same time it seems totally oblivious to the possiblity that it might be used to kill people, by slicing them up like in Logan's Run.

Instant countermeasure = polished tin-foil.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2007, 03:19:47 PM »
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Why is the 40mW blue laser more expensive than a 300mW green laser?

The blue of course has as smaller wavelength allowing for more energy to penetrate, but I'd rather have the larger wavelength in most instances in order to transfer more energy to the target's surface.

A thousand bucks cheaper for 300 mW vs 40, I'd have to go green.

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I'm pretty sure, but don't quote me on this, is because blue lasers are more difficult to create.  While the red was the first and easiest.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2007, 03:22:26 PM »
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did mitch taylor solve the overheating problem, and did kent make the mirror for the professor?


I think all progress was halted by the unit's predisposition to self-destruction immediately following the brief firing sequence, thus yeilding a great deal of popcorn.

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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2007, 03:36:53 PM »
Real Genius 2 has just been announced, btw.  

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2007, 03:45:11 PM »
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Real Genius 2 has just been announced, btw.  

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Will Ice again be the antagonist?

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2007, 03:48:34 PM »
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Will Ice again be the antagonist?


You pet-named this guy 'Ice'? That's pretty ****ed up.


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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2007, 04:00:16 PM »
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You pet-named this guy 'Ice'? That's pretty ****ed up.



I was talking about this genius-

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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2007, 06:56:51 PM »
And I was talking about Hathaway(Atherton), the antagonist.

Nevermind Sluggish. Joke failed.