Author Topic: Jeremy Clarkson-The Good The Bad The Ugly (Read 10232 times)

Nilsen · « **Reply #105 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:17:21 AM »

he does not trumpet british cars.. you should just see how many times he comes down on brit cars like Astons etc.

You take this far to seriously neubob.

That beeing said.. american cars suck compares to anything else

john9001 · « **Reply #106 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:28:02 AM »

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Originally posted by -tronski-
Clarkson sent his GT40 back for a full refund after a month having it break down from only after 3 days from delivery...he eventually bought it back and still calls it the most unreliable car ever made

must have been all those euro-spec parts in it.

Bronk · « **Reply #107 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:30:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen

That beeing said.. american cars suck compares to anything else

http://www.saleen.com/saleen_s7_main.htm

Yea what a piece of crap this is.

Bronk

Neubob · « **Reply #108 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:43:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
he does not trumpet british cars.. you should just see how many times he comes down on brit cars like Astons etc.

You take this far to seriously neubob.

That beeing said.. american cars suck compares to anything else

I don't do this often, Nilsen, but you've piqued my interest....

Post a link to a video, any video, where he rips on an Aston. Mind you, I'm not trying to doubt you, I just really really want to see that walking brillo-pad say something negative about a British icon.

lazs2 · « **Reply #109 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:43:39 AM »

viking.. you say no one would buy performance cars in your up if they were inexpensive...

I seen the cars people drive in england... traffic jams of the most boring cars I have ever seen in my life... the most gutless econoboxes all stacked up in rush hour traffic in the rain. front wheel drive crap boxes with the occasional "lord" in some late model euro supercar.

Even a six cyl mustang would be a better ride than what those guys actually had to choose from.

If you guys spent some time touring the U.S. you would have more of an appreciation for what we drive and why. My lincoln town care rides better than both the mercedes and BMW I drove recently... I coulda put the BMW in the trunk... 5 days on the road I 40 forever it seemed... big trunk...motels cheap gas and 23 mpg... Huge seats and lots of room.

Around town... 468 big block 6 speed... hotchkiss and bilstein suspension... I never even seen any 1969 cars in england except a line of healeys going to some show or something...

We have shows here that the guys add 400 hp on a dyno in their shop... and Americans are doing it in garages all over the country... there are cars that do the 1/4 mile in 9 or ten seconds running around on the streets here...

You do not want to try to run some euro supercar against one... and... you can do it here for less than 10 grand.

quarter milers and customs and hot rods and autocrossers... they are all here..

you smug euros don't have a clue as to what is happening in the automotive scene here in America.

We laugh at the show you guys smugly point to.... I watched them with 70's eyetie supercars and it proved not a one of the guys on that show really has the slightest idea of what goes on in a drivetrain or suspension.

They drive around and test cars that for real enthusiasts..... are nothing but basic raw material..

And that is the point.... without spending a fortune... the euro cars are the best they will ever get the day they leave the showroom... all downhill from there... The cheaper American cars are raw material.. Even a Viper is easy to double the HP on and fix the suspension so that you wouldn't (they wouldn't) recognize it. We can do it in our garage... and... we all have a garage eh mate?

lazs

FastFwd · « **Reply #110 on:** January 08, 2007, 12:31:10 PM »

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If you guys spent some time touring the U.S. you would have more of an appreciation for what we drive and why.

Well Lazs2, the best selling cars in America are things like the Honda Civic and Toyota Camry. Correct me if wrong, but these same cars are available all over the world, including European countries. So maybe the auto scene in the US is not as different as you thought?

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #111 on:** January 08, 2007, 12:44:08 PM »

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Originally posted by FastFwd
Well Lazs2, the best selling cars in America are things like the Honda Civic and Toyota Camry. Correct me if wrong, but these same cars are available all over the world, including European countries. So maybe the auto scene in the US is not as different as you thought?

Where overseas have you lived FF?

moot · « **Reply #112 on:** January 08, 2007, 12:47:04 PM »

FastFwd, That's not automotion, that's transportation.

Clarkson is just catering to his audience. He doesn't believe most of the BS he tells, and the rest of the BS is just prancing to make his journalist character attractive.
Sort of like Pen & Teller don't always straight for the jugular nor follow textbook rhetoric, when there's more entertaining debunking alternatives.

Nilsen · « **Reply #113 on:** January 08, 2007, 01:29:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
I don't do this often, Nilsen, but you've piqued my interest....

Post a link to a video, any video, where he rips on an Aston. Mind you, I'm not trying to doubt you, I just really really want to see that walking brillo-pad say something negative about a British icon.

You just have to trust me on this cause i have no idea if the BBC has put every episode out on YouTube.

I have seen them all tho, and he bashes brit cars just as much as ferraris, germans or anything else. Him and the rest of the crew finds faults with almost every single car they test.

Nilsen · « **Reply #114 on:** January 08, 2007, 01:29:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
http://www.saleen.com/saleen_s7_main.htm

Yea what a piece of crap this is.

Bronk

dont bite everything you see... that

should have given you a clue.

Bronk · « **Reply #115 on:** January 08, 2007, 01:36:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
dont bite everything you see... that should have given you a clue.

Was trying to add to it with you.

Like say saying "Yup nilson's right just look at this POS !!".

Bronk

FastFwd · « **Reply #116 on:** January 08, 2007, 01:54:03 PM »

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Originally posted by moot
FastFwd, That's not automotion, that's transportation.

The point I'm trying to make is that "japanese imports" like the cars I mentioned are the biggest sellers in America. Lazs2 is claiming that he saw a lot of boring cars on his travels in Europe. But Clarkson said the same thing about America, when he looked at that 6-way interchange. Sure, America makes Dodge Viper and 200mph Corvettes. Lazs2 is trying to make these cars sound like the norm. The sales figures tell a different story. America buys millions of jap import cars, which are probably no different from those sold in Europe/Australia etc.

Nilsen · « **Reply #117 on:** January 08, 2007, 01:56:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Was trying to add to it with you.

Like say saying "Yup nilson's right just look at this POS !!".

Bronk

So you agree that they are all crap?

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #118 on:** January 08, 2007, 01:56:31 PM »

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Originally posted by FastFwd
The point I'm trying to make is that "japanese imports" like the cars I mentioned are the biggest sellers in America. Lazs2 is claiming that he saw a lot of boring cars on his travels in Europe. But Clarkson said the same thing about America, when he looked at that 6-way interchange. Sure, America makes Dodge Viper and 200mph Corvettes. Lazs2 is trying to make these cars sound like the norm. The sales figures tell a different story. America buys millions of jap import cars, which are probably no different from those sold in Europe/Australia etc.

Have you driven much in England? I don't think you would say the above if you did.

john9001 · « **Reply #119 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:02:51 PM »

most "jap import cars" are built in the USA.