Author Topic: Jeremy Clarkson-The Good The Bad The Ugly (Read 10234 times)

Neubob · « **Reply #120 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:07:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
You just have to trust me on this cause i have no idea if the BBC has put every episode out on YouTube.

I have seen them all tho, and he bashes brit cars just as much as ferraris, germans or anything else. Him and the rest of the crew finds faults with almost every single car they test.

Ok, I trust you.

He's still a *****, though, with maybe the greatest job in the world.

Bronk · « **Reply #121 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:12:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
So you agree that they are all crap?

Yup especially the S7.

Bronk

straffo · « **Reply #122 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:22:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
When a guy goes to great lengths to find fault or shame in something, and does so relentlessly, almost obsessively, I think it speaks more of the guy, or in this case, his target audience, than it does about the target of his mockery. If Clarkson hates America and Americans so much, he should stay away. If he likes cars so much, he should spend more time analyzing and driving them, rather than practicing his stand-up routine.

At this point, I'm not sure that he's even an automotive journalist. Given his sweeping tendancy to trumpet anything from Britian--a nation that has less to brag about lately than the US--he seems to be more of a low-rent modern day Mark Twain with a driver's license than anything else.

PS: On any given day, walking the streets of Las Vegas, you are about as likely to find a visitor from abroad than you are a citizen of the US.

I think you missed a good part of the show :

Top gear is anything but serious.

Example : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTeBuwVipfo

Neubob · « **Reply #123 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:36:41 PM »

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Originally posted by straffo
I think you missed a good part of the show :

Top gear is anything but serious.

Example : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTeBuwVipfo

I know that he's tongue-in-cheeking it most of the time. I just can't forgive this particular Brit for railing on the Countach in one of the Cable shows a few months ago.

He drove a car that, back in the 80s, was every red-blooded boy's dream, and spent most of his time complaining about how miserable it was.

FastFwd · « **Reply #124 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:37:24 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
most "jap import cars" are built in the USA.

Yeah I know - like my 1998 Honda - that's why I put those words in quotes.

Viking · « **Reply #125 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:51:42 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
must have been all those euro-spec parts in it.

Good one!

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Originally posted by john9001
most "jap import cars" are built in the USA.

See? America CAN make good cars!

lazs2 · « **Reply #126 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:56:07 PM »

In America you will see a lot of old muscle cars and trucks and Hot Rods on the highways. In england... all I seen was late model econoboxes with motors too small to even get over here... I rented a fiat that was so gutless that you couldn't even make it up a decent size hill around here or pass anyone on a two lane road... it was dinky and badly laid out and even if you could buy the thing here..... nobody would.

If you drive more than 15 minutes on any road in America you will see a modified car or 50. Not just wheels and such but HP and suspension mods.

It is actually rare to see a vette that hasn't been tweaked to some extent. The euro trash here is allways stock because... well... it just doesn't pay to work on em.

Here, you can make a mustang outperform the saleen and roush ones in a few weekends in your garage... You can buy 6 speeds and 400-1200 hp crate engines ... with warranties! they drop right in. the euro trash cars that approach 500 hp are rare and expensive and right on the edge tunning wise...

While... A 500 hp small block chevy motor is about 5 grand and common as dirt... GM sells a crate 760 hp motor right over the counter. People are dumping thousands of these things in mild looking street cars every year...

Those guys on top gear would probly wreck one trying to get a decent quarter mile time out of em.

cpxx.... we hear crap box "tuner" cars all the time too but ignore em.. I am talkiing about a big American V8 at full song going through the gears... you haven't lived till you did that. We hear it every day..

it isn't just the "ruling class" that gets to drive 500 hp cars here... the guy working at walmart probly has one with more HP than 9 out of ten euro supercars.

lazs

lazs

Sandman · « **Reply #127 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:57:10 PM »

I'm not sure about the rest of the "big 3," but for the awhile there General Motors stopped being a car manufacturer and became a bank that happened to make cars. They we're making more money on financing than they were on the cars. No surprise that the manufacturing went to ****.

FastFwd · « **Reply #128 on:** January 08, 2007, 03:36:42 PM »

Lazs2

Sure that Roush Mustang was powerful at 415bhp.

But it still got beat by the 1.8 liter Lotus Exige.

Choocha · « **Reply #129 on:** January 08, 2007, 03:43:56 PM »

Yes, but they sold that "bank" AKA GMAC. Now they are free of all thier distractions and can focus on grass roots issues. You can thank Bob Lutz for that one.

I think GM will emerge as the strongest of the big 3 in 5-10 years. Again, its all part of their grass roots campaign.

For example, when I first started working for GM we had no info. on our racing division...what they were up to and how they were doing. When Rick Wagner hired Bob Lutz, we got weekly updates on races around the world that GM was participating in.

It takes a while to change the culture in such a large company, but it is happening.

Viking · « **Reply #130 on:** January 08, 2007, 03:51:34 PM »

In all honesty Clarkson is somewhat of a Europhobe as well. He's what the Brits call "a little Englander". While ragging on the Americans is both easy and fun, sometimes I think the Germans get the worst of it.

Ze Germans were not pleased with this joke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqRzGJjD11M

Jeremy with my favorite woman in the whole world (well … sort of).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtwPW5ZGtUs

Here he goes on about selling his Ford GT … and America again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD7vMsu_ysc

Germans again (lol "Messerschmitt shooting").
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtoiO5c7G3g

Well sometimes he gives ze Germans some credit (lol "then we'll sort out Rover).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyBIoc4RCKU

Bronk · « **Reply #131 on:** January 08, 2007, 03:53:50 PM »

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Originally posted by FastFwd
Lazs2

Sure that Roush Mustang was powerful at 415bhp.

But it still got beat by the 1.8 liter Lotus Exige.

But how livable as a daily driver is it?

Quick to point out how the vett sucked on the road but not the lotus.

And he commented on the fact how good Roush Mustang was on roads .

Go ahead and gloss that over too.

Bronk

Viking · « **Reply #132 on:** January 08, 2007, 04:04:00 PM »

Actually he did call the Lotus a "plastic toaster".

Viking · « **Reply #133 on:** January 08, 2007, 04:05:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
I have no interest in cars whatsoever except for beeing a means of transport from A to B

You woman.

vorticon · « **Reply #134 on:** January 08, 2007, 05:23:31 PM »

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Originally posted by FastFwd
Lazs2

Sure that Roush Mustang was powerful at 415bhp.

But it still got beat by the 1.8 liter Lotus Exige.

it got beat by a very sleek car with half the weight (and half the horsepower)
that costs about 5 times more than its worth.

you can build car with similar weight, greater power output, and ugliness that can only be countered with a tweed hat and a trophy wife. for a heck of a lot less. it'll also sound better.