Author Topic: When did the Cold War start? (Read 2508 times)

VooWho · « **Reply #45 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:27:02 PM »

Hitler was the same. He loved kids and he loved his dog and women. He was also a vicious dictator leader.

moot · « **Reply #46 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:39:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda:
Believe me or not, but 90% of the people at this board will be absolutely happy under Soviet system (if we take entire population - i'll estimate 99%).

90% will be absolutely happy to see the earnings of their labor redistributed to others?
You are asserting 90% would willingly work in vain.. I work here in France, and can't stand 20% of my paycheck disappearing 'for my own good', for things I don't need nor use; I think that's absurd and borderline theft - that's my context, what's yours?

Hawco · « **Reply #47 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:48:14 PM »

Vudak · « **Reply #48 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:48:43 PM »

I will say this. Given the massive, and I mean massive, problems the former Soviet Union has had trying to westernize, I could understand why someone living there might have some of Boroda's views... Misguided and in many cases wrong as they may be.

Boroda · « **Reply #49 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:53:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Hornet33
So what your saying is the "west" ran free elections and the people decided what they wanted to do and because the Soviet Government didn't like it that justified building the Berlin wall, blockading the city and shooting anyone who tried to get to the western controlled parts of the city? And this was a better form of government how?? Sounds like a dictatorship to me, of course that's what the Soviet Union was even if you choose not to believe it.

"Free elections"!? LOL! Ask Italians, there Communist Party was not allowed to participate in elections backed up by American bayonets.

I already told the reasons for the blockade. Trying to starve a nation that did all the job in WWII both in Europe and Pacific (I wonder if you'll swallow this hook) was... hmm... unfair. You declare that you are capitalists, that money rules the world - and then want charity from the poorest to the richest?!

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Originally posted by Hornet33
Also how about answering my other questions from my previous post or do those hit too close to home for you because there is no answer?

What questions? About shooting idiots who wanted to jump the wall? I think it's obvious. I want you to tell why _you_ think Red side did it. Hint: it wasn't because it was naturally evil and bloodthirsty, there was a perfectly sane reason for it. I'd say that if US of A was in the same conditions as USSR - they'll shoot everyone coming as close as 1km to the Wall.

Boroda · « **Reply #50 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:00:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Vudak
I will say this. Given the massive, and I mean massive, problems the former Soviet Union has had trying to westernize, I could understand why someone living there might have some of Boroda's views... Misguided and in many cases wrong as they may be.

IMHO the problem is that "westernisation" turned into Coke and chewing-gum instead of free education and healthcare, with a giant theft-fest, when everything acieved by 200 million people in 70 years was given to a handfull of crooks.

Genocidal policy against Slavic nations, deliberate destruction of science, education, hi-tech industry is what we have now. And it only gets worse every year, thanks to Comrade Putin and his gang. Anyway - he is better then Yeltsin, they mind their own profit while the old alcoholic simply followed orders...

I still don't hear KGB knoking on my door, I guess they are too busy catching millions of people who think like me

Boroda · « **Reply #51 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:05:19 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
no. i was just adding him to the repertoire.

it surprises me when i read bad things about uncle joeseph...i just don't see how people would believe that such a loving daddy cuddle bear could be so irrepressibly freaking brutal.

I posted a link, JVS a Man of the Year 1942 according to Time magazine

One little fact: in 1999 in Democratic Russian Federation there were over 2 million people in prisons and prison camps. It was more then in the worst years of Stalin's "purges". RF in 1999 had a popularion of 150 million people. USSR in 1940 (the worst year with almost 2M in GULAG) was 170 million.

Hail Democracy!!!

VOR · « **Reply #52 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:10:29 PM »

Boroda, I just wanted to say I've always enjoyed your political rants. Please, carry on!

Hawco · « **Reply #53 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:14:17 PM »

A bit off topic here but feel like writing it anyway, if it wasn't for the Soviet Union then Western Europe would have been put under the nazi yoke, The Soviet Union lost Millions of it's citizens fighting the nazis, I will always hold that country in the highest regard for this fact, To debate political systems is fruitless, It polarises people as ingnorance and entrenched views replace reasoning and common sense.

Boroda · « **Reply #54 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:17:33 PM »

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Originally posted by VOR
Boroda, I just wanted to say I've always enjoyed your political rants. Please, carry on!

I am probably boring, repeating the same things again and again

Just found a bunch of facts that noone can beat...

VOR · « **Reply #55 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:21:26 PM »

Well, I for one miss the USSR. Since the early 90s we've been struggling to find a bad guy with half as much pinache as the Red Machine.

It was kinda like the moment Luke Skywalker finally watched Darth Vader die. A triumph, but ultimately it left us with a hollow, lonely feeling.

Boroda · « **Reply #56 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:27:40 PM »

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Originally posted by VOR
Well, I for one miss the USSR. Since the early 90s we've been struggling to find a bad guy with half as much pinache as the Red Machine.

It was kinda like the moment Luke Skywalker finally watched Darth Vader die. A triumph, but ultimately it left us with a hollow, lonely feeling.

Congratulations, you did a good job finding an enemy, first raping poor Yugoslavia for fighting Moslim terrorists, then destroying the only modern non-religious Arab country... WTG

VOR · « **Reply #57 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:34:43 PM »

You're right. It wasn't nearly as satisfying as going nose to nose with the USSR used to be. Kinda like beating up the neighborhood tough guy then slapping his girlfriend because you've run out of things to do.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #58 on:** February 02, 2007, 06:03:47 PM »

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I am probably boring, repeating the same things again and again Just found a bunch of facts that noone can beat...

And I present to you the comedic stylings of Boroda.

*Clap*

Vad · « **Reply #59 on:** February 02, 2007, 06:23:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Hawco
A bit off topic here but feel like writing it anyway, if it wasn't for the Soviet Union then Western Europe would have been put under the nazi yoke, The Soviet Union lost Millions of it's citizens fighting the nazis, I will always hold that country in the highest regard for this fact, To debate political systems is fruitless, It polarises people as ingnorance and entrenched views replace reasoning and common sense.

It's honor to say you "Thank you for your understanding", and I can't lose this chance.