Should we allow Iraqi refugees into the US?

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by dryroasted
Why dont we ask the native americans after all it's not really OUR land is it?

Manhatten is. Was bought fair & square

[dryroasted]

fair enough.....we will give you 56 beads for it back thats 6 more than you gave us.....only a mad man would say no

[john9001]

land not belong indian, all land belong great spirit.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by dryroasted
fair enough.....we will give you 56 beads for it back thats 6 more than you gave us.....only a mad man would say no

Fine by me. Personally I cant stand NYC and see it as little more then the sewer of the east coast.
Unfortunately I am not in the position to sell them back or I'd give it to a free of charge

[WhiteHawk]

Originally posted by nirvana
Isn't there still plenty of land in Iran or Saudi Arabia?  Not being xenophobic or anything, just wondering why they should have to travel across several thousand miles.

The US is being criticized about not doing anything to address the refugee problem.  There are thousands, maybe tens of thousands who are trying to get into the country and being denied papers.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Yeager
Only those that our military accidentally maims and need long term care.  Send the rest to whatever country viking lives in

I'm afraid we're at our limit with regard to assisting you. We just sent additional troops to Afghanistan, and we already have a chitload of Iraqi and Afghani refugees here. We can't take care of all your problems for you.

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by dryroasted
Why dont we ask the native americans after all it's not really OUR land is it?

It is our land.  We kicked indian ass, and now it's ours.  

There's only two groups of people who have whined so much after being beaten in a war.  The indians and the palestinians.

[Hawco]

Absolutlety not-never in a million years.
I was in  cab with the wife a few months ago, I asked the driver where he was from, said he was from the middle east, I said what part of Iraq you from, he told me, I got him to pull over and let us out, Not driving in a cab by soemeone who more than likely wore an  Iraqi  uniform trying to kill me,
F$$K the pc brigade, I ain't having nothing to do with them, send them all to F%%%G Swededn or Norway if they like.
We got here and come back all F%%%D up and they get to come here and drive cabs and have a nice little life, something wrong with that picture.

[Viking]

Hawco, that's because you've got issues after your experience, and I sympathize. I had a much milder version of PTSS after my little war, but I don't hold any animosity anymore towards by ex-enemies. I do however have a distaste for people who flee their country instead of fighting for it (or against it if they so believe).

[Maverick]

Originally posted by dryroasted
Why dont we ask the native americans after all it's not really OUR land is it?

It didn't belong to the Amerinds either. They just squatted on it after emmigrating themselves.

As far as the native term is concerned, any one born within the borders has just as much claim as anyone else born there to the term.

Not terribly PC but accurate.

[tedrbr]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
It is our land.  We kicked indian ass, and now it's ours.  

There's only two groups of people who have whined so much after being beaten in a war.  The indians and the palestinians.

You applying for a job at the U.S. State Department, by chance?  You're a natural!

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In answer to the original post.  Yes, we should take in some Iraqi refugees.  Poor decisions and SNAFU's from State, DoD, and Administration have helped to create the mess over there.  Time to try and make some small amends to some of the people.  

I met and worked alongside a lot of decent Iraqis when I was there.  Escorted a group of Sunni, Shii, Turkomen, Kurd, and even Iraqi Christian truck drivers for 3 months that got along fine with each other and us troops.  
Dealt with Iraqi IT guys to hook up my company with satellite internet while in country that certainly knew their stuff.   You could never *trust* any of them while in country..... you never knew when "Ali Baba" would get to them, or their family (don't matter how much an Iraqi appreciates America taking down Saddam if someone else has a gun to the head of his family).  
Their sense of humor always sort of surprised me as well, considering the conditions.

Many of the Iraqis I met were well educated and they picked up English a lot faster than I was picking up Arabic.  

Maybe personal experience has me empathizing with them and their plight, but yes, considering the numbers of other immigrants we take in from around the world, I see no reason not to take Iraqis as well.

[squealer]

Yes. Stop the ****s coming to england.......

[Hawco]

One time I was in the HYatt down on the Embarcadero in San Francisco and i heard all these microphones blasting away outside, turned it was some sort of anti war demo going on, Danny glover et al where all there.
Some punk was at the front waving an Iraqi flag around,
I went down the elevator, walked passed the cop barricades and promplty ripped that flag up to bits, I had all the dreadlocked hippies and the SUV starbucks drinking mob all baying for my blood, I then calmly walked passed all the cops who just told me to "get the hell outa there" with a smile on their face. F%%k that, some punk waving a flag around like that.

[Hawco]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
If they were where our bullets were flying at they probably werent our freinds to begin with.

I wouldnt have attacked Falluja with ground troops. I would have flattened it

coulda saved some of our own lives that way.

As for the wold. I dont give a damn if the world hates us or not.
Fully 2/3 of our problems over there are giving a watermelon too much what the world thinks

About the best post I have read on this bbs, why isn't there more people like you?
I fyou ever run for a political job, I'd back you all the way my friend

[tedrbr]

:Originally posted by DREDIOCK
    If they were where our bullets were flying at they probably werent our freinds to begin with.

    I wouldnt have attacked Falluja with ground troops. I would have flattened it

    coulda saved some of our own lives that way.

    As for the wold. I dont give a damn if the world hates us or not.
    Fully 2/3 of our problems over there are giving a watermelon too much what the world thinks

Originally posted by Hawco
About the best post I have read on this bbs, why isn't there more people like you?
I fyou ever run for a political job, I'd back you all the way my friend

I have to disagree... 90% of our problems over there come from America (and to some extend most of Europe) being dependent on cheap oil from the Middle East.  All about the sweet crude.