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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2007, 09:35:38 PM »
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Are you happy with permanent zebra stripes on your cockpit?

If not, what would you like to see instead? :noid

 




um....how about clear window with fully working oil pressure?


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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2007, 11:39:12 PM »
In the racing games I play there is a gradual buildup of oil/grease/dirt/rubber on the windshild until you pit and the pit crew pulls a tear-off off.

It's a neat effect and doesn't seem to hurt FR's either.

I'm sure something similar would be possible here with engine damage.
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2007, 12:21:52 AM »



I'm not sure a tear-off is gonna help with 30 gallons of oil pouring out of the cowl flaps. :D

Awesome pic Pyro.  Kind of puts things in perspective...

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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2007, 01:30:18 AM »
I agree, we need updated damage to the engine. Id like SOME warning the engine is malfunctioning, some clanking noise a few seconds early, instead of a sudden... nothingness...

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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2007, 02:13:21 AM »
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I agree, we need updated damage to the engine. Id like SOME warning the engine is malfunctioning, some clanking noise a few seconds early, instead of a sudden... nothingness...



Just watch that little falling oil gauge.  It will let you know, in case the oily windscreen is not enough of a hint to head back the barn to be chewed out by the plane's crew chief.

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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2007, 02:33:41 AM »
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Just watch that little falling oil gauge.  It will let you know, in case the oily windscreen is not enough of a hint to head back the barn to be chewed out by the plane's crew chief.


I watch it like a strip-tease. Its a havit my instructor has drilled into me. But planes like the Spitfire are CONSTANTLY in the redline on temperatures. Ive nursed about 10 planes now, home with 0 oil. Its all about enginge temperature, and cooling things off. But with planes like the Spifire mk IX, even with full oil, the temperature is naturally in teh redline, and its very hard to tell just how deep in the redline it goes poof. Same with radiator. In real life theres at least SOME sign, other than whats on the gauges, that something is very wrong.

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Cool Pic Pyro
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2007, 03:59:10 AM »
Yeah, that looks pretty bad.  Like someone suggested above, probably resulting at least partially from a build up.
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Okay, let's take a look at what happens in AH (too often if you attack bombers ).   You position your plane just out of reach of a dozen gunners all pointed towards you.  You build your speed and pick your moment.  Now!  You see an opening, and you have others who have joined in to keep some of the attention from your speeding dive.  You squeeze of a few rounds and rip into a wing and just about to kick some but.   Whap!  Spiderman webs your cockpit!  :huh

Also good suggestions here of alternative effects, like opening cockpit, slow build up of debris, engine sputters and performance fall outs.:aok

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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2007, 10:32:06 AM »



I think it's the result of an oil-tank explosion of some sort while on the ground? (look at the oil going downwards from the fuselage)

Might also be over-excited painters :D

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Re: Re: Re: Replace Current Oily Windshield: Suggestions?
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2007, 12:44:36 PM »
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Personal opinion:  (whispers.......  I think Kuhn has worn his black face camouflague too long .... and leaves oily streaks all over everything,  and that's how he likes it) :lol [/B]


Thats funny :aok  :D

OK I do agree that something else should happen once in awhile.
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2007, 01:21:18 PM »
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Having engine oil smeared across the windscreen was a hazard of aerial combat in WWII.

Can't see changing it.  Maybe ADDING additional effects, loss of engine power, surging, and such, but can't see changing the existing effect.

If it bothers you THAT much, learn to fly the P-38.  No oily windscreens in that plane.  Or.... learn not to get shot up and avoid HO passes.


Yeah... what he sez...  Now adding the puffy smoke thing, or animating the oil streaks might be cool.   :aok

But then people are gong to start asking for frost build up inside the cockpit for those strat guys that come screaming down, and then you'll need defrosters to handle the frost, and shivering pilots....
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2007, 01:28:49 PM »
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I think it's the result of an oil-tank explosion of some sort while on the ground? (look at the oil going downwards from the fuselage)

Might also be over-excited painters :D


 
You're not serious are you?  Oil obviously came out of the cowl flaps.  Those streaks down the side came after the bird was on the ground.  Little thing called gravity.  

Its actually one of the more spectacular examples I've seen.  Pity the poor pilot trying to catch a glimpse out the side of the open cockpit with hot engine oil running by.  A testament to his flying ability since the rest of the plane seems to be in good shape.

The question is: was it enemy fire that cause the oil loss, or mechanical failure?   Either will produce that effect though.

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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2007, 01:39:46 PM »
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http://www.flyaceshigh.com/pyro/oilhit.jpg


I'm not sure a tear-off is gonna help with 30 gallons of oil pouring out of the cowl flaps. :D

Awesome pic Pyro.  Kind of puts things in perspective...


I wonder what the story is behind this picture?  Don't see any damage, unless he took a canon HO in the nose.

Ground test and a line break somewhere?  Anyone have ideas how we can ID the unit and get the scoop?
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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2007, 01:39:49 PM »
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I'm not sure a tear-off is gonna help with 30 gallons of oil pouring out of the cowl flaps. :D

Awesome pic Pyro.  Kind of puts things in perspective...


Thats for sure - he got it HOME after taking that hit.

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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2007, 02:15:15 PM »
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Yep, there's countless photos like the one Pyro just posted, on lots of aircraft. I've seen a P51 that's even worse (belly landed, oil all over the place, even out onto the wings).


If a picture is worth a thousand words, then I guess 10 pictures would be worth ...... errr  .... ummm   ..... me standing my ground.  

Krusty countless?  Did you forget you had toes? :D   You guys are probably right.  

I just don't see that the probability of hitting an oil line (or my other favorite cannon) to be almost statically as high as fuel tanks, given the difference in surface areas. :confused:

But yet let me get within 1.5 k of B17s or new airfield and that is what I get.:rolleyes:

:cry oops!  Turned into a whine.  Well if, like some of you have pointed out I won't get my wish, maybe one of you has another visual alternative ;)
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Re: I could live with it once in a while
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2007, 04:40:42 PM »
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If a picture is worth a thousand words, then I guess 10 pictures would be worth ...... errr  .... ummm   ..... me standing my ground.  

...But yet let me get within 1.5 k of B17s or new airfield and that is what I get.:rolleyes:

Hey, yer giing yer fellow Virginian's a bad name with them tears... cut it out.

And what's this you're getting hit from 1.5k out?  What'r ya doing, standing on your tail in hover mode? :huh
« Last Edit: February 21, 2007, 04:44:48 PM by Odee »
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