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Spiked · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2007, 05:01:34 PM »

Vlkyrie needs a serious reality check here. I had a freakin blast both frames even though the allied fighter stream never seemed to end. Lost my plane in both frames .... actually most flying axis lost their planes in both frames.

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You lw winers shouldn't even be here.

Tell ya what bub ... you have fun flyin these scenarios all by yourself. And as for the "lw whiners" comment ... I "attempt" to fly these birds. Why you ask? Because someone has to or there would not be a bloody FSO.

doobs · « **Reply #16 on:** March 10, 2007, 05:45:16 PM »

DEEP BREATH,

everybody step away from the keyboard, nothing good will come from this.

Spiked · « **Reply #17 on:** March 10, 2007, 06:00:43 PM »

Sorry doobs ... no disrespect meant to anyone. But someone should seriously tell Vlkyrie exactly what was wrong with his statement.

Squire · « **Reply #18 on:** March 10, 2007, 07:51:05 PM »

Hmm. I wasnt going to get into this thread but now I think I will.

Couple of things.

Firstly, I will freely admitt I mostly fly allied rides in SEA setups, but like everybody else, my squad flies axis as well, for many reasons. Change of pace, side balancing, whatever. We are currently axis in this one.

I am an ex FSO designer and CM, and have participated in countless FSO and other Scenario missions over the years.

That being said.

I can see a genuine need to keep HUGE #s of a/c from all getting into the same battle space if its possible to avoid, there are still legitimate concerns over how PCs can handle the load, ect.

I dont see anybody from the designers point of view trying to "screw over" any particular side...the CM crew puts a lot of effort into making these things run, and I dont think those kinds of accusations are ever helpfull.

"The fortunes of war" can be unkind sometimes, and make for a hard frame for anybody, we have all been there. Its the nature of these things.

I dont see a problem with having several targets setup for heavy bombers to spread out the streams a bit if the #s call for it (sometimes they do....sometimes its not as big a problem depends on the design). Nobody is saying the allied side cant send a strong escort. Nobody is asking anybody to be sent to a "slaughter".

"Winning" is no the be all and end all in FSOs. Its having a fun expereince with some historical matchups. Its never going to be perfect, there are always designs and play challenges in these things, so relax, and have fun.

Dissing another squad or player is also a poor strategy, because we all get shifted, your deadly nemesis in one FSO is your escort in the next design! We are just players, this isnt war. We are all part of the FSOs.

Constructive criticism I think is a good thing, lets air concerns, but lets not get ugly about it over the competative nature of it. Lets be respectfull.

1895 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 10, 2007, 09:14:36 PM »

KEKEKKEEK YOUR ALL GONNA DIE FROM THE LAGGY WORLD OF AH FSO IN 1 SECTOR. ILL RETURN TO THE FSOOO SOON SKECTCH KEKEKEKEK

FiLtH · « **Reply #20 on:** March 10, 2007, 09:17:48 PM »

Ummm I am Allied. I'm complaining because just a couple Sundays ago many of us discussed spreading out players in these events so that its easier on people's machines. Maybe those people were'nt part of the planning on this.

For the record. Next time spread out attack in either multiple targets, or multiple waves.

I can't defend the bombers at a zero fps.

Oh and lighten up with the CO thing.

Been there,done that, knocked it up, and sold the puppies.

Its a game.

Valkyrie · « **Reply #21 on:** March 10, 2007, 09:52:43 PM »

Then give us some figgin leway in timing the attack. Having everyone attack targets by T+60 is mindless as in this frame buffs didn't have time to properly form up at alt, they should be flown at 37 man and they were all at 44+ all the way. Give us time to form up and maybe we could come in at different times. That would be fun. Or better yet give us a wide array of targets to hit so the LW doesn't camp. Give the LW radar, and make them work for an intercept. I am not in maps but I would be happy to plan events as soon as the map is put in place.
For god sake give the buffs a fighting chance losing 40% is unreasonable. And yes losing 90% of the LW is unreasonalbe. There are many things you could change and would make it better, but some of the idiotic rules of FSO must be changed to do this.

During the Ruhr series I never remember having these kinds of issues. It would give the LW a better shot at it, change the problems facing the allies and be a better event overall.

As for laser guided 50's it just isn't the case. I can't hit watermelon with the 50's and my gunnary is very good. So stop the falsehoods being told in this thread.

Side balancing with those changes would be correct as you LW could work to try and avoid the escorts, while setting up a proper intercept, and you might even survive. Bottom line is your failing your mission to find buffs in time which is remarkable as you know the targets ahead of time. And your going to lose this FSO. I'd complain if I were you and start working for change as I will as my squad should be axis next fso

~~Vlkyrie1~~

Krusty · « **Reply #22 on:** March 10, 2007, 09:56:08 PM »

I'm not even going to respond. I'm sorry valk but you seem kinda off-base on this one.

But consider you don't have to hit anything until T=60, and you all were over target at T=30. Your own fault you were in such a rush.

Valkyrie · « **Reply #23 on:** March 10, 2007, 10:05:13 PM »

Krusty its obvoius you have no clue i shant say more

Vlkyrie1

Imoutfishing · « **Reply #24 on:** March 10, 2007, 11:43:18 PM »

Valkyrie,

We have had many FSO's before you had you came around. There is never room for this type attitude with an event. The fact is this was a simple request from an indiviual on your team.

Insults aside by FSO standards the orders were basic & caused issues with some computer's out there. Frame two's Allied orders were hard to read & unclear.

I suggest adjusting your orders to allow maximum preformance for all involved & not catering to your systems specs.

I find you comments rude & un welcome. Take that for what it's worth but thats where I stand here.

MGD

Imoutfishing · « **Reply #25 on:** March 10, 2007, 11:46:26 PM »

Oh yeah... Krusty does have a clue

MGD

Krusty · « **Reply #26 on:** March 11, 2007, 12:26:55 AM »

Let's just say.... had I been allied CO I'd have totally done it differently....

(*evil cackling laugh here*).

I know a thing or two about planning bombing missions on a large scale

doobs · « **Reply #27 on:** March 11, 2007, 12:49:21 AM »

Please let this Die.

otherwise, I will have to send ROC and NEF your way for an intervention.

ROC and NEF are great guys, but have zero tolernce for this, and I don't blame them.

Krusty · « **Reply #28 on:** March 11, 2007, 01:02:05 AM »

No harm, no foul, Doobs. 'Tis all in good spirit, methinks.

I'm sure everybody realizes we want to keep things civil and friendly as much as possible. Right fellas?

EDIT: ^-- just treat that as rhetorical folks, let's just let this one "age" a bit. I'll do my part.

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #29 on:** March 11, 2007, 12:00:59 PM »

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Originally posted by doobs
Please let this Die.

otherwise, I will have to send ROC and NEF your way for an intervention.

ROC and NEF are great guys, but have zero tolernce for this, and I don't blame them.