Zogby Poll: Voters Believe Media Bias is Very Real

[Elfie]

The problem is, I don't believe either side gives a damn about most of us. They see it as a game of manipulating opinion for their own ends, not the welfare of the people they are supposed to represent.

There is so much truth to that. Sad thing is it applies to both Republicans and Democrats and I wouldn't be surprised a bit if even the Independents are like that.

[moot]

Originally posted by namvet
Conservatism preys on the unedcated.

With its long, sharp teeth... and its treachoursly convincing dyslexic aberrations.

[Momus--]

I imagine that if you're inclined to believe that an industry almost entirely owned and controlled by corporate-capitalist interests has a truly left-wing agenda then  argumentum ad populum is probably the best you'll ever do in terms of evidence.

[oboe]

Originally posted by Toad
Let me help you with that then, with a repeat from the very first post.



That would be 66% of independents think the media are liberal and less than 25% see a conservative bias.

You must have missed that I guess.

No, Toad, thanks.   I did see that.   But I'd be intersted to know more about how independents responded to the poll questions.     Usually these polls have more than one question, and often the pollsters go into quite a bit of detail in summarizing the results.

[Eagler]

LOL

How can they present anything but left/liberal view when they have historically voted democrat?

Thank goodness for Fox news as their conservative view point throw a very small counter balance to the entire mess.

Anyone who cannot see the liberal slant in the general media in the both spoken and printed word is very naive.

[Toad]

Originally posted by oboe
 But I'd be intersted to know more about how independents responded to the poll questions.      

I think you can sign up/pay at Zogby for access to that information if you are interested in more than a summary.

[Toad]

Originally posted by namvet
Conservatism preys on the unedcated.

OMG! Conservatives are dining on Liberals!

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by Guppy35


The problem is, I don't believe either side gives a damn about most of us.  They see it as a game of manipulating opinion for their own ends, not the welfare of the people they are supposed to represent.

Ed Murrow in his 1958 speech in Chicago had it right when he expressed his concerns about marketing, ratings, money dictating the news, not the story itself.

That is the crux of it.

News now is about the Smith chick or that Britney cut her hair. Or cutting to a commercial.

Damn news outlets are going to run E! entertainment out of business.  

[lazs2]

If you can listen to NPR radio or cnn and not see the liberal bias in an hour... then you are not very bright or dishonest or both.

lazs

[Hajo]

Guppy Ed Murrow was far ahead of his time.  I actually liked to watch the News to be informed.......35 to 40 years ago.  Now it appears ...well not appears it's highly apparent they now sell the News.  Most talking heads today seem to do one of two things, talk down to the viewing public or lean so far to one side they almost slip from the TV screen.

I liked the News much better when  "Goodnight Chet.....Goodnight Dave" and goodnight from NBC News were the closing words from NBC News.

Another quote from a famous 50s' and 60s' TV series describes how I like the News. "Just the facts M'am just the facts."

[quintv]

They must have polled people in kansas and or other flyover country states.

"der homelandt"

[Gunthr]

imagine that if you're inclined to believe that an industry almost entirely owned and controlled by corporate-capitalist interests has a truly left-wing agenda then argumentum ad populum is probably the best you'll ever do in terms of evidence.

and what assumptions are you making?  are we supposed to believe that they are scientific ones?

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by lazs2
If you can listen to NPR radio or cnn and not see the liberal bias in an hour... then you are not very bright or dishonest or both.

lazs

I dont think you need an hour, maybe 10 or 15 minutes, depends how many commericals they run..

[Delirium]

In a quick sentence;

The biggest difference from the News today from what we had historically is now the News has to sell their product to the masses.

Think about it... in the old days, we had few channels and often they all had the same programming (more so when the President was speaking), now I can always throw in a DVD, listen to my I-Pod, or play AH. Heck, if I wanted to I could not listen to ANY news of any kind for the rest of my life (as things are now) and it wouldn't affect me.

Fortunately, I do listen to the news and I have to several different agencies to really have any clue what is going on because each one is pushing an agenda or an opinion.

(edit: seems as though Hajo and I have the same opinion about the news having to be sold to the masses)

[Momus--]

Originally posted by Gunthr
and what assumptions are you making?  are we supposed to believe that they are scientific ones?

No assumptions are required to conclude that just because a lot of people believe something doesn't necessarily make it true.