A question for the CMs who design events

[toadkill]

Is there any chance of an event that takes place during the night? I know, we lack the correct night fighters to do this, but I feel it would be a fun event that could show us what were missing having no Night in the MA.

What brought this thought up was when i was examining a skin i was creating and trying to get good lighting on it. So i ended up changing the time to night, and i realized  "WOW, i can SEE!!!"  the visibility its tons better now at night.

if you guys haven't looked heres a screenshot of it.



(if its extremely dark, save it and open it full screen)

So i ask this, whats an estimated percent that we could get a night FSO, for at least one frame?

25%?

99%?  


3%?

[TinmanX]

I've done nights in Snapshot before, they're hella cool. Turn enemy icons white instead of red and it's open season.

[ROC]

Rabul Snapshot
Running this snapshot Wednesday April 18.

Starts at 5:30 AM in Game Clock, pitch black.  Figure about a 20 minute or so flight up to the target, and sunrise as you start to get close.

[toadkill]

Woot. I'M THERE!

and yeah i knew there were multiple snapshots that were at night, but i was really interested in seeing FSO at night. Really think it would be one of the most memorable events we'd have.

[Drano]

I remember a long while back we did a nighttime FSO. It was Lancs and Mossies against FWs and 109s I think. I can't remember if it was the whole event or just the one frame. It was different. But if you have everyone turning up their gamma just to turn the AH night into somethng that's closer to day(which is pretty much what happened there) what's the point?

Dont' get me wrong I agree, a true night thingy would be cool. I was just discussing it in another thread last week. Something along the lines of German night fighters with 3rd country radar controllers versus the RAF bomber stream at 3AM over say the Rhine map. Give me a Ju88-G and I'd be all over it.

But while you and I and maybe a few others might find it immersive and challenging, many--prolly a majority I'd think, would find the idea of hunting around in the dark for 2 hours just to find something to shoot at boring as all hell. Just sayin.

Drano

[Krusty]

Nothing in this entire game is set up for a true "night" experience.

IMO most folks want "night" so they can get in, drop bombs, and get out unmolested. You realize you can do that offline, too, right?

I agree with Drano. almost 100% of folks that "fly night missions" jack their gamma through the roof, to the point they should ask themselves "wait a sec, why did I want to fly at night??"

Not to mention other problems with not being able to see an aircraft 200 yards in front of you, just seeing the icon. Can't see which way the wings are banked or the nose it turned, if he's against dark sky pulling any kind of vertical move.


Night has no place in this game until HTC specifically DESIGNS it for night, including runway lights, city lights, proper illumination/glow of everything around these lights, "fog/haze glows" over major areas (which this game doesn't even have to illuminate!), plane-based radar, server-forced "no icon" mode, bad weather, high casualty rates before and after getting to target due to crashing or being led off course by enemy ELINT that deviates the radio beam they were following, AI controlled radar-following spotlights that instantly set every ack gun in 50 miles on you the second they hit you, barrage ballons, and not the least of which is radar-equipped night fighters that can sneak up to 50 yards before firing without being seen because it's pitch-freaking-black-midnight out!

None of that stuff is in this game. All of it would be required to even scratch the surface of a true "night mission" based game.

[daddog]

I remember a long while back we did a nighttime FSO. It was Lancs and Mossies against FWs and 109s I think. I can't remember if it was the whole event or just the one frame.

I remember that one. It was one frame. We flew Lancs. It was fun, but many did not care for it. Night time in general has unpopular with FSO players. If an Admin CM wants to run a night FSO for 3 weeks I am sure players would let them know what they think.

[toadkill]

See, now My thought line for wanting night was that the people who didn't want to fly at night could crank the gamma up to whatever they wanted making a pseudo day. And the people who want to have the fun experience of flying at night could keep it night.

Now, krusty, while most people would like to play in night to be able to sneak in and out. I post this because i want to see it go in the opposite direction, i would love the element of surprise seeing being in a set of buffs in clear skies, and then out of no where a group of 10-15 190s or 110s end up in the middle of the formation, and all hell breaks loose.

As for not being able to see cons at night from 200 out. I already cant do that during the day. Between the blinding sky and the pitch-black trees.

Good list of additions I'd like to see krusty . After all only half of world war 2 was fought during the day.

[Krusty]

Actually, I'd say 7/8ths of it was fought during the day.

Night bombing was somewhat limited due to navigational problems and hitting the proper target without being able to see it. The night fighters that flew were an extremely small % of the total day fighters that were flown.

While it brought about some technological leaps, the night war was a footnote of the bigger war, IMO.

[FiLtH]

As it is right now, day or night, its the same. We would need a form of radar, and be able to see the flames from exhausts to make it a better night setup. As it is now, its the same thing with a lil darker.