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Ripsnort · « **Reply #45 on:** June 15, 2007, 09:43:31 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
Eagler post was yet another attempt at dehumanizing the people not sharing his view
It's a very old trick learned from those on the left.

Fixed.

68ZooM · « **Reply #46 on:** June 15, 2007, 09:56:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
According to this Bush has an overall 29% approval rating, 6 points better than Congress' 23%...

Well if your going to post that, you might want to post the rest of it. Dont just snip out what you want .

In a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, Bush’s approval rating is 29 percent, representing a drop of 6 points since April and his lowest approval mark ever in that poll.

In April, 75 percent of Republicans approved of Bush’s job performance. Now, 62 percent of Republicans approve.

The poll, released June 13, also found that 23 percent approve of the job that Congress is doing, a drop of 8 points since April. Last October, just before the Republicans lost control of Congress to the Democrats, Congress pulled 16 percent approval in the poll.

Looks like the Republican lead congress only had a 16% approval rate.

And Eagler what you said is just plain UN-American, Just spew utter BS with no Facts to back it up.

Keep listening to Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter as they wear the same rose colored glasses as you do.

Yeager · « **Reply #47 on:** June 15, 2007, 10:02:11 AM »

Well if your going to post that, you might want to post the rest of it.

Dont just snip out what you want .

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Go back and look at your previous post (you know, the one where the only thing you posted was the Presidents approval rating).

Take some of your own advice.

Might do you some good

68ZooM · « **Reply #48 on:** June 15, 2007, 10:03:29 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
so lemur... bush's approval rating is based only on the war?

What should we do? should we get all our troops out on the afternoon flight to new york city?

So long as the troops feel that we should be there and that they are doing some good I will support them.

The rest of your opinions are meaningless.

lazs

Lazs does the poll state " Iraq War Approval" ? It states JOB Approval, To me that would me OVERALL JOB Performance, Which is now 29%.

Have a Good Day

Yeager · « **Reply #49 on:** June 15, 2007, 10:04:25 AM »

I wonder why you can write this in this place without being at risk to be banned.
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Ban teh PiNk ElepahNte

68ZooM · « **Reply #50 on:** June 15, 2007, 10:08:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Well if your going to post that, you might want to post the rest of it.

Dont just snip out what you want .

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Go back and look at your previous post (you know, the one where the only thing you posted was the Presidents approval rating).

Take some of your own advice.

Might do you some good

What i posted was his Approval Poll and stated that it went down from the 31% someone posted earlier, that was all.

Guess its time to spin what i posted now yeager?

Yeager · « **Reply #51 on:** June 15, 2007, 10:35:09 AM »

What i posted was his Approval Poll and stated that it went down from the 31% someone posted earlier, that was all.
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Indeed you did, followed by this

Well if your going to post that, you might want to post the rest of it. Dont just snip out what you want .
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Seems to me that you simply snipped out the ONE point you wanted to share. Someone else snipped out the ONE point THEY wanted to share, and you Squawked about it.

I think the overriding point here is that Bush the republican may suck, but congress the democrat sucks worse.

Or: Your guy sucks worse than my guy. Welcome to my day.

That is all.

straffo · « **Reply #52 on:** June 15, 2007, 12:07:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Fixed.

not realy ,this trick is older than herode
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanized
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #53 on:** June 15, 2007, 12:26:19 PM »

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Originally posted by straffo
Virgil ,I plead guilty of the use of republibot, but I (arrogantly) think the ones I picture this way deserve this description by their repetitive post I've seen during the last years.

I find being zealot of one or the other party is not an excuse to such a behaviour.
I'm certainly biased but I think they have the benefit of a better tolerance than their left counterpart.

I'm sure some democrat family have lost family member during this war and I'm pretty certain they are not "secretly cheering".

Eagler post was yet another attempt at dehumanizing the people not sharing his view
It's a very old trick.

When I can't deny the potential benefit for the democrat ,and before we start ca chicken/egg discussion I shall remember you them democrat didn't start this war as the old adage say : you reap what you saw.

I'll end this later , I've to leave early.

The Democrats voted nearly 100% for this war to start with Straffo. Don't forget that, don't minimize it, or trivialize it. The majority of the front running Democrat candidates voted for it. Kerry voted for it before he voted against it. Clinton, Gore, and the rest of them were convinced Saddam had the weapons, or at the very least was trying to get them and was close. Even during the first Bush administration. It's real easy for them to say Bush is wrong, Bush is evil, and Bush is stupid, now. But back then they voted with him. Now the media gives them a pass on it.

straffo · « **Reply #54 on:** June 15, 2007, 01:15:18 PM »

oops forgot that ,they have their share of responsibility

Eagler · « **Reply #55 on:** June 15, 2007, 02:15:50 PM »

straffo

on the reverse side, don't you think the dems would be upset if everything was going super well in Iraq? What would they have to beat bush up over? the economy with its record level? LOL
or maybe global warming??
LOL LOL LOL

sorry - I do think/believe there are those that secretly rejoice every time bad news comes out of Iraq

bad news = dead American soldiers

Viking · « **Reply #56 on:** June 15, 2007, 05:16:54 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
The Stars and Stripes gets the majority of it's stories from AP.

Not according to them:

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Stars and Stripes maintains news bureaus in Europe, Pacific and the Middle East to provide first-hand reporting on events in those theaters.

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Originally posted by AKIron
I think you want to believe the worst about America and Americans.

Well … I find your opinion contrary to reality, but I’m used to that from you. The ironic (and perhaps surprising for some) thing is that I want to believe the best about America and Americans, and despite all the attempts to discourage me by most of you guys here, there are a few … very few … of you that confirm my belief.

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Originally posted by AKIron
Your prerogative of course but I wouldn't expect too many here to agree with you.

What’s the point of having a discussion if everybody agrees with you? I don’t go for circle jerks.

Viking · « **Reply #57 on:** June 15, 2007, 05:26:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Shifty
He seems to post only in threads where it offers him a chance to show his contempt for both. I wonder why people bother responding to him.

I have conveyed my contempt for some of the opinions expressed here in this forum on very few occasions; perhaps too few since there really are a lot of contemptible opinions being expressed.

That said … I know my opinions are contemptible to some, and like you they don’t shy away from letting me know that … so why should I? If you don’t want to read my posts … well, you know what they say about TV and the “off” button.

Yeager · « **Reply #58 on:** June 15, 2007, 06:11:55 PM »

Viking....do you have access to any women? Get laid bro, calm down. This is NOT the place to get bothered about.

AKIron · « **Reply #59 on:** June 15, 2007, 06:30:20 PM »

It's been a while since I subscribed to the Stars and Stripes but I recall a lot of AP articles, here's one from today: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRAQ?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

I'm glad you look for the best Viking, seems like you only see the worst though.