The surge has failed...already.

[L'EMMERDEUR]

Originally posted by Viking
Well … I find your opinion contrary to reality, but I’m used to that from you. The ironic (and perhaps surprising for some) thing is that I want to believe the best about America and Americans, and despite all the attempts to discourage me by most of you guys here, there are a few … very few … of you that confirm my belief.

Don't let the posts here mislead you.  You're looking at a very small slice of the pie, the most rabid of the 30% or so who believe everything the government and corporate media tell them.  And most of them don't even really feel this way.  They are just trolling or expressing opinions they would be embarrased to admit to in person.  Real Americans have a much broader range of opinions and express them in a much more civil manner than you see here.  The Bushbots do not represent America.  To the contrary, they are an increasingly extreme fringe element which is in the midst of being comprehensively discredited.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by L'EMMERDEUR
Real Americans have a much broader range of opinions and express them in a much more civil manner than you see here.  The Bushbots do not represent America.  To the contrary, they are an increasingly extreme fringe element which is in the midst of being comprehensively discredited.

I would have to characterize your aspersions as less than civil.

[john9001]

"Real Americans "?

[L'EMMERDEUR]

As in, the Americans he would actually meet if he came over here.  Not the anonymous projections of a small sample of vaguely angry middle aged men who never outgrew a childhood fascination with explosions and uniforms and vehicles with phallic frontal protrusions.  

[john9001]

L'EMMERDEUR, you are very strange.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by L'EMMERDEUR
Don't let the posts here mislead you.  You're looking at a very small slice of the pie, the most rabid of the 30% or so who believe everything the government and corporate media tell them.  And most of them don't even really feel this way.  They are just trolling or expressing opinions they would be embarrased to admit to in person.  Real Americans have a much broader range of opinions and express them in a much more civil manner than you see here.  The Bushbots do not represent America.  To the contrary, they are an increasingly extreme fringe element which is in the midst of being comprehensively discredited.

Good luck selling that ton of tripe to anyone with brains and or common sense. "Bushbots"? That the best you have? Doesn't surprise me. You don't even have a location in your profile. A real ton of credibility you have, nothing but insults, and a lack of the courage to even say where you're from. Pretty obvious who is being discredited here, and you're doing it to yourself. I'll have to say though, you're doing a GREAT job.

[L'EMMERDEUR]

thx john9001!

[soda72]

BBC confirms the troops surge starts now...

Nice that the dem's leadership called it a failure before it even started...



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6757329.stm

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by 68ZooM
Well if your going to post that, you might want to post the rest of it. Dont just snip out what you want .

That's the point of the link...  we don't have to cut and paste things when we provide a link.

Otherwise if I were to quote Shakespeare or the Bible, my post would quite long.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Yeager
Viking....do you have access to any women?  Get laid bro, calm down.  This is NOT the place to get bothered about.

Lol, yes I do. However, I am not bothered at all and my previous posts should be read in a calm manner like friends discussing over a beer at the pub. I always try to read other peoples posts in that context too. Makes this forum a lot calmer and nicer, don't you think? I have the kind of stone-faced personality that never really gets worked up about anything.

Originally posted by AKIron
I'm glad you look for the best Viking, seems like you only see the worst though.

I am perhaps guilty of mostly commenting in the bad news threads; I’ll admit to that. However if you look at the O’ Club as it is today, how many “good news” threads are there to comment on? And most of the few happy threads are about American sports or other subjects I have little or no interest in. When you think about it you guys aren’t exactly known for focusing on the bright side either.

Ironically when I’m discussing “world events” with my friends over here (perhaps over a beer at the pub like I mentioned) I find myself more often than not arguing on your behalf.

Originally posted by L'EMMERDEUR
Don't let the posts here mislead you.  You're looking at a very small slice of the pie…

I’m well aware that the patrons of this bbs are hardly a representative portion of the American public, or the world for that matter since there are non-US patrons here as well. I can’t say I’m a typical Norwegian either.

[Ripsnort]

Viking,
Another popular and montly publication from the US Army. My nephew sends these home monthly.

For your reading pleasure (Acrobat format) but be warned, none of this news will make headlines.

http://home.comcast.net/~ripsnort60/Taji_Times_Edition_15.pdf

[Viking]

Thank you for posting that Rip. If you can spare the time and effort, would you mind terribly making a separate thread and posting each issue of the Taji Times when you get them? Would be nice to get a different point of view of what's happening than what the media corporations consider "news worthy".

[-tronski-]

This story about US soldiers "rescuing" near dead orphans was on last nights evening news, and was extremley complementary on the actions of the soldiers involved:  Iraq orphans found starved and naked

But one or two "good" stories hardly balance the disaster that is Iraq

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
The Democrats voted nearly 100% for this war to start with Straffo. Don't forget that, don't minimize it, or trivialize it. The majority of the front running Democrat candidates voted for it. Kerry voted for it before he voted against it. Clinton, Gore, and the rest of them were convinced Saddam had the weapons, or at the very least was trying to get them and was close. Even during the first Bush administration. It's real easy for them to say Bush is wrong, Bush is evil, and Bush is stupid, now. But back then they voted with him. Now the media gives them a pass on it.

And run the risk of being labelled un-patriotic? The media may just give them a pass because they too are complicit with the rampant pre-invasion hysteria - at most they (Clinton etc) may have lacked the backbone to voice any dissention, but wisely saved being cruicified for it which was quite popular at the time...

 Tronsky