The Democrats have Hillary and Obama...

[Ripsnort]

Remember 2004 when there were those "Run Hillary Run" stickers?  They were produced by the Republicans, and the meaning of the sticker was that if Hilllary ran, the Dem's would be giving the election away to the Repubs.

I still think it holds true today.  I don't believe this country is ready for a woman president (even though you personally might be, I don't believe a majority are ready...) and the same applies to a black president (possibly a VP though)

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Halo
Hillary and Obama.  Picture them as president and vice president.  As your top elected officials.  Solvers of problems large and small.  Representing the United States to the rest of the world.  

Thompson and Powell in a rout.

Exactly.

You could put a "never heard of him before" republican candidate up against them and they'd beat the H&O team.  That's just my gut feeling, I could be wrong.

[TalonX]

Republicans do have a his vis contender...Guiliani.   For that matter, "high vis" would include McCain.

Whether any of these clowns can win is anyone's guess.  I don't see anyone seriously sending Hillary...nor can I imagine Osama running the country.  He has NO EXPERIENCE yet.  Too soon.

Buckle up!  The Battle for Not Sucking the Most, is underway.

[Dago]

McCain has already dropped pretty much out of sight.

Guiliani doesn't have a snowballs chance.   Among other problems, his anti-gun stance will cost him a very large percentage of the conservative vote.   NRA will go medival on his rump campaigning against him.

Fred will be the one.

[CAV]

Thompson - An actor? I don't care if we was a Senator or president of the Glee club he's been tainted by Hollywood. You see where the last actor/President got us.

Lets see what did the last actor/President do.....

Oh yes, He won the the "Cold War" and removed the letters U.S.S.R. from the map of the world. I can go for 8 years like that again.

Cavalry

[Eagler]

its not about who is running ...

the dems are on the hunt for the next homo page swapping lurid emails with some horny gay republican rep or some other republican "sex scandal" - the dems have their best man on it now:

Larry Flynt

if any of you think we as a country are too stupid to vote in an inexperienced black man and the power potato into the WH, you are underestimating the level of our ignorance ..

all you write in types will share the blame if in fact we do prove to be as retarded as I fear we have become

[lazs2]

yep.. uber and toad...

I guess the only real choice for you guys is billary or osamabama?

It is easy to get a republican vote for ron paul.. it is easy to get them to waste their vote and get a democrat elected...

notice no democrats are saying that they want RP?

Doesn't that tell you that there really is a difference in the parties?

lazs

[68ROX]

Originally posted by Halo
Hillary and Obama.  Picture them as president and vice president.  As your top elected officials.  Solvers of problems large and small.  Representing the United States to the rest of the world.  
 

Dorothy...................... ...........................wa ke up!





68ROX

[cav58d]

If the unfortunate happens and Hillary becomes President, I feel at least in regards to security, we wouldn't be that bad off.  I just cant see the first woman President, especially image driven Hillary Clinton, wanting to come off as weak.  Who knows.

I just hope Obama never sees the lights of the WH or VP Mansion.  I think the guy is a complete fool, and the country has this hard on over nothing.  The guy is a robot.

Oh an by the way...For all the African American's who will simply vote for Obama because he is also an African American....Obama is from Hawaii, lived in Indonesia as a kid and went to Columbia and Harvard.  Before you give away your vote simply because of skin color, ask yourself if he really is in touch with your "struggle".

[lazs2]

blacks give away their vote in any case... mostly to white guys with $400 haircuts.  

Blacks vote for democrats in a huge and unwavering block.  they are slaves to the democrats.

lazs

[Toad]

Originally posted by lazs2
yep.. uber and toad...

I guess the only real choice for you guys is billary or osamabama?

lazs

My state will go republican by a large margin. I can easily afford to vote for Ron Paul.

By the same token, it's a given that New Yawk will go to Clinton, no matter what. New Yawkers can afford to vote for Ron Paul as well.

Only in the true battleground states would it make a difference.

Laz, what are the odds of DSRK (Democratic Socialist Republik of Kalifornia) giving its Presidential electoral votes to whatever Republican runs in 2008?
Would you say it is so close to absolute zero chance that the difference is immeasurable?

I think it is, so you can afford to vote for Ron Paul too.

A running towards socialism Democratic win over a walking towards socialism Republican will not change our politics in the least. The reverse would also be true, in the unlikely chance that happens.

A great showing by Paul would at least have a chance to affect the future political discourse in this country.

[cav58d]

If its Rudi v Hillary, do you still think she will take New York for certain?

[Toad]

Yep.


It'd be a lot closer but I think she'd take him with a clear margin.

[AWMac]

I'll vote Mac as a write IN... he seems to have answered all my questions.



Mac '08

[lazs2]

toad.. can't fault your logic.   If your state is going to go republican by a wide margin then go ahead... can't hurt to vote for rp.   I will have to wait and see with kalifornia but I suspect you are right on that as well.

I do disagree with you on the politics not changing with a democrat or a republican.   I agree that it doesn't seem like it sometimes but one only has to look at the bills brought up and passed or vetoed or not by democrats vs republicans.

democrats will work tirelessly to destroy the second and to add new social programs and defeat any voucher system for schools..  these are important issues... worth caring enough to not let democrats in.

I do see your point about "might as well" if you are sure that your state will landslide one way or the other...  I fudge on that one...

I only vote for a libertarian when I am sure a democrat won't get in... if there is the slightest chance my vote will let a democrat in... I just can't do it... I have to vote for the republican.

lazs