Jug is Handi-capped

[Uriel]

So I exagerated by saying 2x the power of a Stang.. but if my memory doesnt fail me the mustang had 1400.. so Im sorry 900 more horse power, and a better supercharger for high alts

[Boxboy]

Originally posted by Bronk
Yea...
P-47D-40
Country of origin:    USA
Crew:    Single-seat
Type:    Fighter/attacker
Normal loaded weight:    14,500 lbs.
Dimensions:    Wing span 40'9¼"
Length 36'1¾"
Height 14'2"
Internal fuel:    370 gallons

Messerschmitt Bf 109G-14
Country of origin:    Germany
Crew:    Single-seat
Type:    Fighter/attacker
Maximum loaded weight:    7700 lbs.
Dimensions:    Wing span 32'6½"
Length 29'7½"
Height 8'2½"
Internal fuel:    106 gallons

Almost double the weight  but not double the HP. It should climb nowhere near as good.

Bronk

Bronk you listed everything EXCEPT rated horsepower for each??? just wondered why since your statment hinges on that fact.

[Uriel]

Originally posted by Bronk
Nope.

Bronk

thats a pile.. the problem with military charts is they dont show true potential... case in point.. chart said my missile cruiser could do 25 nauts..
it could do 33.. I saw it

[Golfer]

What to test pilots and engineers who use their gathered data know anyway...

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Uriel
40 109's vs 16 Jugs.. lost 3 jugs, but 7 109's???????

Big Troll Alert


Ever thought about the outcome of a single battle may depend on many more factors than pure plane specs on a piece of paper?

BTW, read books. TV stultifies the mind.

[hitech]

Uriel: About paddle bladed props. paddle blades do not necessarily make a plane climb better. If all depends on if you are pushing more horsepower into the prop than it can convert at best climb speed. Paddle blades became much more useful as engines became more powerful. They could no longer make the blades longer, so the made them wider instead to increase the wing area of the prop.

2nd we have all the charts on performance both in game and on our web pages.
You claim our performance is off just by hearing it on the history channel?  And you do not even show any numbers to say how well they should climb.

You might wish to do just a tad more research to back up your claim. Because we really do not pull the performance numbers out of a hat.

HiTech

[Uriel]

Originally posted by Lusche
Big Troll Alert


Ever thought about the outcome of a single battle may depend on many more factors than pure plane specs on a piece of paper?

BTW, read books. TV stultifies the mind.

Yes but the odds there are rediculous.. the 109's had an alt advantage

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Uriel
Yes but the odds there are rediculous.. the 109's had an alt advantage

Pilot quality (Date of the engagement?)? Which model of 109 vs which model of P47? At what altitude the fight began?

[Uriel]

Originally posted by hitech
Uriel: About paddle bladed props. paddle blades do not necessarily make a plane climb better. If all depends on if you are pushing more horsepower into the prop than it can convert at best climb speed. Paddle blades became much more useful as engines became more powerful. They could no longer make the blades longer, so the made them wider instead to increase the wing area of the prop.

2nd we have all the charts on performance both in game and on our web pages.
You claim our performance is off just by hearing it on the history channel?  And you do not even show any numbers to say how well they should climb.

You might wish to do just a tad more research to back up your claim. Because we really do not pull the performance numbers out of a hat.

HiTech

I respect that.. and appreciate the response.. Im not bashing the game- I love it, and the hard work you do. But when case history and game do not add up I will bring it up. I always love a good debate

[Uriel]

Originally posted by Lusche
Pilot quality (Date of the engagement?)? Which model of 109 vs which model of P47? At what altitude the fight began?

I will get back to you on that.. I have it recorded on my DVR

[Furball]

I read about a load of bomber pilots being put in FW-190's and sent up against the pilots in the west, without pretty much any training, i think they lost the vast majority on their first outing because they simply did not think as fighter pilots.

Doesn't say anything about the performance of the aeroplane.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by hitech
Uriel: About paddle bladed props. paddle blades do not necessarily make a plane climb better. If all depends on if you are pushing more horsepower into the prop than it can convert at best climb speed. Paddle blades became much more useful as engines became more powerful. They could no longer make the blades longer, so the made them wider instead to increase the wing area of the prop.

2nd we have all the charts on performance both in game and on our web pages.
You claim our performance is off just by hearing it on the history channel?  And you do not even show any numbers to say how well they should climb.

You might wish to do just a tad more research to back up your claim. Because we really do not pull the performance numbers out of a hat.

HiTech

 HT just got busted either using the new version of Firefox with spell check or having some one else post for him.  I ran it through MSWord and all I found was the lower case (p) on Paddle.

[Golfer]

Originally posted by Uriel
I always love a good debate

This isn't that.  You've yet to make a solvent argument.  Instead of finding the debate you seek you're making yourself look foolish.

[Golfer]

Originally posted by dedalos
 HT just got busted either using the new version of Firefox with spell check or having some one else post for him.  I ran it through MSWord and all I found was the lower case (p) on Paddle.

HT's been "useing" firefox for a good while now.  Thank goodness!

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by bozon
I don't remember a case of more wrong statements in one post.
Anyone?

yeah, when Silat posted he didn't wear a skirt.


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