If you didn't have to wear.....

[lazs2]

Your seatbelt... if you wouldn't get a ticket would you wear one?

Do you wear one in a bus or a taxi?  

I wear my lap belts in my hot rods.... It is likely that I will get into a situation that I may need em...  well... not likely but...more likely.

I never wear the stupid three points in my lincoln.. don't see the need.   I never ride with women driving me or even do I let many men drive me around.... I don't trust em.. they don't seem to have a clue.

Sooo... what do you do and why?

lazs

[Mickey1992]

I would still wear my 3-point seat belt.  I have been in enough accidents (both as driver and passenger) to know if I had not had my seat belt on my injuries would have been more severe.  There are just too many idiots on the roads.

[Traveler]

Originally posted by lazs2
Your seatbelt... if you wouldn't get a ticket would you wear one?

Do you wear one in a bus or a taxi?  

I wear my lap belts in my hot rods.... It is likely that I will get into a situation that I may need em...  well... not likely but...more likely.

I never wear the stupid three points in my lincoln.. don't see the need.   I never ride with women driving me or even do I let many men drive me around.... I don't trust em.. they don't seem to have a clue.

Sooo... what do you do and why?

lazs

Good for you lazs, don’t let any government agency tell you how to live or die for that matter, even if it is the law.  

I’ve been on a volunteer EMS Squad for over 25 years.  We have a state highway right on the edge of our coverage area.  I’ve seen the difference that seat belts can make.  I have always driven with seat belts , even before it was required and always required anyone in my vehicle to wear them, or the vehicle didn’t move.  I’d wear a 5 point system if they put them in the car.  I always wear a seat belt.

Oh, by the way, have you filled out that organ donor card thing on your drivers license?

[storch]

Originally posted by lazs2
Your seatbelt... if you wouldn't get a ticket would you wear one?

Do you wear one in a bus or a taxi?  

I wear my lap belts in my hot rods.... It is likely that I will get into a situation that I may need em...  well... not likely but...more likely.

I never wear the stupid three points in my lincoln.. don't see the need.   I never ride with women driving me or even do I let many men drive me around.... I don't trust em.. they don't seem to have a clue.

Sooo... what do you do and why?

lazs

I have gotten lots of tickets for seatbelts but I still refuse to wear one during working hours because the areas of town where I drive are somewhat violence prone and I don't want to give up a few seconds in an emergency confrontation.  they might make all the difference.

however when frau storch is in the truck I wear one because her nagging trumps bad guys.  I would rather die than hear her incessant whining about how many tickets I have already gotten.

[JB88]

they have saved my life more than once.

i wear them.

[lazs2]

traveler... good for you...  you do realize that most deaths come from head injuries... do you wear a helmet?  No?

How bout a firesuit?  race car drivers wear both.  

You have never seen a head injury or burn victim?  I have... not pretty.  someone as timid as you would probly not even drive again.

Do you let people drive you around?  are you a good driver?

I say that if you let your wife or friend drive you or... you have no driving skills (average driver) then you are being much more of a daredevil than I.

But be a good little boy and don't run with scissors like mommy said... no amount of intrusion into your life is too much if it is for your own good tho right?

And no... I am not an organ donor... seems like a good way to lose your organs to me.

lazs

[OOZ662]

I just wonder if you actually have these opinions or if you like the size of your internet "piece" so much.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Traveler
Good for you lazs, don’t let any government agency tell you how to live or die for that matter, even if it is the law.  

I’ve been on a volunteer EMS Squad for over 25 years.  We have a state highway right on the edge of our coverage area.  I’ve seen the difference that seat belts can make.  I have always driven with seat belts , even before it was required and always required anyone in my vehicle to wear them, or the vehicle didn’t move.  I’d wear a 5 point system if they put them in the car.  I always wear a seat belt.

Oh, by the way, have you filled out that organ donor card thing on your drivers license?

Well if my sister was wearing a seat belt at the time of her accident, she wouldn't be here.  
She was a passenger when the car slid off the road into a pole. When the car hit she slid up under the dash as the car folded behind her. The car hit with such force the passenger seat pushed the drivers seat off the mounts and out the door.
So I guess your damned if ya do and damned if ya don't.

Bronk

[Speed55]

I wear my seatbelt so i don't get a ticket.

 Even if there wasn't a law i would still sometimes wear it when i have to get on the highways, or bad weather conditions out of choice.

 I've seen some real winners out there that like to slam on there breaks at 60mph when they miss an exit, or when there's a little curve in the road.

I do, and would still wear it when i'm the passenger since i'm no longer in control of the vehicle.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Traveler
Good for you lazs, don’t let any government agency tell you how to live or die for that matter, even if it is the law.  

I’ve been on a volunteer EMS Squad for over 25 years.  We have a state highway right on the edge of our coverage area.  I’ve seen the difference that seat belts can make.  I have always driven with seat belts , even before it was required and always required anyone in my vehicle to wear them, or the vehicle didn’t move.  I’d wear a 5 point system if they put them in the car.  I always wear a seat belt.

Oh, by the way, have you filled out that organ donor card thing on your drivers license?

Yes he has, he check the box called "other" and wrote down "All but one, you figure it out..."

[majic]

Even if it wasn't the law, I'd still wear my seatbelt.  I've been a passenger in a couple of minor (low speed) accidents and wasn't wearing one and was thrown around like a rag doll.

Let me ask you Lazs, do you disable your airbags?  (Or, if you don't have car with them, would you?)

BTW, I don't think I'd call someone who works EMS "timid".  That's not timid work.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by lazs2
traveler... good for you...  you do realize that most deaths come from head injuries... do you wear a helmet?  No?

How bout a firesuit?  race car drivers wear both.  

You have never seen a head injury or burn victim?  I have... not pretty.  someone as timid as you would probly not even drive again.

Do you let people drive you around?  are you a good driver?

I say that if you let your wife or friend drive you or... you have no driving skills (average driver) then you are being much more of a daredevil than I.

But be a good little boy and don't run with scissors like mommy said... no amount of intrusion into your life is too much if it is for your own good tho right?

And no... I am not an organ donor... seems like a good way to lose your organs to me.

lazs

A few of your myths have been punked, Lazs.  From an independent Madison University survey (not the evil government stats)  I made a few of them bold for ya.

One out of every five drivers will be involved in a traffic crash this year.


Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death among people age 44 and younger and the number one cause of head and spinal cord injury.


Approximately 35,000 people die in motor vehicle crashes each year. About 50 percent (17,000) of these people could be saved if they wore their safety belts.


More than 90 percent of all motorists believe safety belts are good idea, but less than 14 percent actually use them.


For every one percent increase in safety belt use, 172 lives and close to $100 million in annual injury and death costs could be saved.


Safety belts when used properly reduce the number of serious traffic injuries by 50 percent and fatalities by 60-70 percent.


For maximum protection safety belts should be fastened before traveling any distance or speed. Seventy-five percent of crash deaths and injuries occur within 25 miles of home. More than half of all injury-producing motor vehicle crashes involve low speeds under 40 m.p.h.


Motorists are 25 times are more likely to be killed or seriously injured when they are "thrown clear" than when remain inside their vehicle.


In a 30 m.p.h. collision an unbelted 160 lb. Person can strike another passenger, crash through a windshield and/or slam into the vehicle's interior with a 4,800 lb. force.


Motorists can increase safety belt usage by example and verbal reminders. Nine out of 10 people buckle up when asked.


Safety belt use is one of the best defenses against the unpredictable actions of the drunk driver.


Today over 25 countries around the world have some type of mandatory safety belt law. Results of these laws were measured; usage rate went from 20-25 percent before passage to 60-90 percent after passage.


A common cause of death and injury to children in motor vehicles is being crushed by adults who are not wearing safety belts. On out of four serious injuries to passengers is caused by occupants being thrown into each other.


About 80 percent of all injuries to children in car crashes are injuries to the head, causing brain damage, permanent disfigurement, epilepsy or death.


Of every 100 children who die in motor vehicle crashes at least 80 would survive if they were properly secured in an approved child safety seat or safety belts.


Three out of four families with child safety seats fail to use them correctly. Adults need to follow manufacturer's instructions and secure seats properly before every trip.


An estimated 80 percent of American children area immunized against contagious diseases, but less than 10 percent are properly restrained when riding in a motor vehicle.

[Maverick]

I wear seat belts in all vehicles equipped with them. That includes aircraft both my own, other private birds and commercial. I don't ride public transportation so it's not an issue. The very few times I did ride a taxi, such as in Vegas, I did wear the belt.

I have driven a patrol car into many situations where violence was already being provided or was extremely likely. I never had a problem getting out of the belt and out of the car in plenty of time in real situations, not hypothetical ones.

I wear a helmet. I don't need a law to tell me to do so. I know my head is worth the price of a helmet and I've seen the results of having one and not having one in a motorcycle collision. I have never, let me state that again, never seen anyone who's neck was broken in a motorcycle related collision by a helmet and I've personally been to more than a couple collision scenes. Nor do I personally know anyone who has personally seen that "phenomenon". In my section since we did the majority of collision investigations. Motorcycle collisions were pretty much interesting to us since we rode them for work. We got information regarding Officer fatalities as part of in service training even if it happened in another state. We often shared information about the more memorable collisions we investigated and especially the fatal ones and I have never heard of anyone in the traffic section finding that particular circumstance.  That kind of ranks right up there with the old "wives tale" that you should never use the front brake on a motorcycle because it will toss you over the bike if you do.

Frankly if the collision is that bad that a neck is broken there are likely to be other trauma's that would make a broken neck a moot point. One of the worst collisions regarding motorcycles I know of was the guy who I replaced in the motor section at work. He had a total body crunch from being side swiped and pushed into oncoming traffic by a car that hit him twice. He had a head on with a combined speed in excess of 60 MPH. There were bruise imprints on the brain from the helmet straps when they did the autopsy. His neck wasn't broken but most everything else was and he would have died anyhow from the ripped aorta even if there was no other injury to the brain.

I don't tell anyone over the age of 18 that they need to wear a helmet. I won't tell them that their head is worth the price of one if they think it isn't. They ought to know more than I would about it's value.

My masculinity is not threatened by the use of a helmet or seatbelt. I ride wearing what I want and don't care a bit what anyone else thinks about it. If they can't deal with it I have no problem at all riding alone. I ride for my own personal satisfaction and purposes, not to impress anyone else. I don't ride a bike to make me what I am, I ride a bike because I am the person I am. The bike does not define me, it's just a tool.

[Charon]

Your seatbelt... if you wouldn't get a ticket would you wear one?

I have totaled a couple of cars without wearing seatbelts and survived in pretty good shape. One was a T-bone in a 75 VW Scirocco (me being T-boned) and the other a rear end collision against a stopped car at 50 mph (but in an old tank of a Volvo). However, I wear them all the time since they don't bother me and I believe that they will likely help more often than hinder me in an accident, though the type of accident will determine that. My car also has the full curtain airbags so that is a plus now. But, frankly, they don't bother me at all and the new nag alarms do so it's not an issue.

FWIW, once I am safely on the ground in an airplane I immediately unbuckle the seat belt. In the vast majority of ground collision/fire type incidents mobility and the ability to be moved by a crushing impact instead of crushed in place are likely far more important, IMO.

Charon

[texasmom]

Yes, I absolutely would. And my kids would too. I guess I can't answer for TxDad ~ I think he would most of the time.  

What's the advantage to not wearing a seatbelt again?  
laziness?  
transforming yourself from a dweeby middle aged man to a cool middle aged man?  paalllease.  whatever!