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Offline SirLoin

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« on: August 21, 2007, 01:08:56 PM »
We got 2xLW's,1 MW & 1 EW arenas(excluding all other arenas for pointsake)

Would you fly a "CV Only" arena? With ports & v-bases in an isles map format?

Wouldn't be too hard for HTC to set up i would guess.

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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2007, 01:13:45 PM »
It's a good idea, but it would exceed the limits for the number of CVs allowed on a map.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2007, 01:20:49 PM »
Nhawk how do you figure?

Training arena terrain has multipule CV groups for each country.

I think Bishops side has 5.

I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work if someone took the time to make a map.

At worst you could put 3 uncapturable fields and strat objects in the far corners.
Do a kind of furball island with V fields in the center and ports strung around that on small islands.

Could be imo very interesting indeed.

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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2007, 01:25:38 PM »
i think skuzzy said once  for a main arena map there shouldnt be mny more then 3 cvs per side
its was set so as to make the load on the users pc when updating less of a strain,thaa way even a crap pc will keep up.the cv has to be updates all the time and more cvs the more the load

well thats how it was explained to me
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2007, 01:40:36 PM »
OK, so a small map with 9 Ports (3 for each side) 6 v-bases on a center island and 3 uncapable air bases way down in the corners with all the strat.

Sounds fun to me.  But I like  CV action

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2007, 01:44:19 PM »
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i think skuzzy said once  for a main arena map there shouldnt be mny more then 3 cvs per side
its was set so as to make the load on the users pc when updating less of a strain,thaa way even a crap pc will keep up.the cv has to be updates all the time and more cvs the more the load

well thats how it was explained to me


You probably misunderstood.  There is no reason for a CV group to update until damaged or reaching a way point
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2007, 03:22:11 PM »
Unlike an airfield, the CV is always moving.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2007, 03:51:18 PM »
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Unlike an airfield, the CV is always moving.


Yes, but its destination is known.  No need for updates until the way points change or reached.  No load on the FE at all.  All that change are the coordinates when not visible.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2007, 03:55:15 PM »
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Yes, but its destination is known.  No need for updates until the way points change or reached.  No load on the FE at all.  All that change are the coordinates when not visible.
Ok, here's a quote when I asked about 5 or 6 ports/CVs per country...

"That many CV groups would make the terrain difficult for most players to
play on.  CV groups are a heavy resource drain on the client and the
severs as the server has to move them around and keep up with them."

There's nothing there to misunderstand.
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2007, 03:58:46 PM »
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Ok, here's a quote when I asked about 5 or 6 ports/CVs per country...

"That many CV groups would make the terrain difficult for most players to
play on.  CV groups are a heavy resource drain on the client and the
severs as the server has to move them around and keep up with them."

There's nothing there to mis-understand.


Well, unless they are talking about what happens when all 6 CV groups are on top one an other, this makes no sense at all from software design perspective.  The server moves planes around all the time. I guess CVs are too heavy for the servers to move  :rofl
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2007, 04:04:56 PM »
In a scenario a year or so ago our objective was to destroy a CV group. Problem was the other side grouped all their CV's in one area. For almost a full sector my frame rates were in single digits. That was with a 3.2g Northwood and a 6800GT. When I dove to drop my ords I was getting 2fps, had to toggle my bombs multiple times for them to drop, then I wasn't able to pull out of the dive because of the low FR's.


When you have the ability to group more than 4 CV groups in an area within the same sector some users will not be able to play, not a wise idea for HTC to allow this to happen, IMO.

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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2007, 04:08:06 PM »
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Well, unless they are talking about what happens when all 6 CV groups are on top one an other, this makes no sense at all from software design perspective.  The server moves planes around all the time. I guess CVs are too heavy for the servers to move  :rofl
On a small map I can almost guarantee that would happen unless the CVs were blocked from grouping together.

On a large map, it would probably be alright (Ozkansas for example has 8 CVs per country).
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2007, 04:14:22 PM »
But a CV group isn't a single object like a plane, is it? Aren't all the gun emplacements, batteries, auto ack, radar, escorts, their ack, etc separate objects that have to be tracked and updated?

Yes dedalos, I know you'd have designed the game differently, but what matters here is how it is, not how it might have been otherwise. ;)
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2007, 04:16:25 PM »
Not to mention the fact that the server doesn't move the planes.
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2007, 06:05:02 PM »
I like the idea.

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