so, what does the B-25 offer that

[Angus]

Been playing with the 25. It's a tad on the slow side, but very enjoyable and packs a punch. And graphically, - nice
WTG HTC

[Saxman]

Tiger,

If hangars are a benchmark:

It takes 3000lbs of bombs to drop a hangar with direct hits

It requires approximately 9 shells from the 75mm (less if you're firing the .50cal as well).

Works out to roughly 333lbs of bombs.

[EagleDNY]

Originally posted by Saxman
Tiger,

If hangars are a benchmark:

It takes 3000lbs of bombs to drop a hangar with direct hits

It requires approximately 9 shells from the 75mm (less if you're firing the .50cal as well).

Works out to roughly 333lbs of bombs.

That would make this 75mm more powerful than either the 75mm howitzer on the LVTA4 or the 75mm gun on a Panzer.  I'd better check it offline, because the last time I gunned a hanger with a Panzer, it took a lot more then 9 HE rounds to do in a hanger.

EagleDNY

[Tiger]

Originally posted by EagleDNY
That would make this 75mm more powerful than either the 75mm howitzer on the LVTA4 or the 75mm gun on a Panzer.  I'd better check it offline, because the last time I gunned a hanger with a Panzer, it took a lot more then 9 HE rounds to do in a hanger.

EagleDNY

Please do and be kind enough to let us know the results.

[Saxman]

Eagle,

Remember that tank rounds aren't hitting with the added energy of a 250-300mph attack dive. Also, it always seems to me that weapon damage seems overpowered offline.

My calculation is based on a strafing run I did my first trip up in a 25H. I'd put 8 rounds of HE into the hangar over several low-level passes, (I was firing the 75mm cannon only and not the nose .50s) then one of my squaddies in an F4U finished it off with .50cal on ONE pass. This was independently confirmed by another member of my squad who gunned down a hangar unassisted with 8 cannon shells aided by fire from his nose .50s.

[Karnak]

In testing offline the B-25H sank a destroyer in two passes with the second pass being slightly shorter.  So did the Mosquito, but it had to make a full run on the second pass only breaking off at the last moment.

So it seems to me that the B-25H puts out a little more firepower on "objects" than does the Mosquito, and can sustain it longer.

The Bf110G-2 should put out a bit more as it puts out a lot more than the Mosquito.

[Krusty]

It takes 2600lbs to kill a hangar, not 3000.

Also, I'm not sure that kinetic energy means squat against ground objects, especially when considering HE shells. Really, the shells were "15 lb" shells. How much equivelant ord that is, I don't know.

I suspect they're a bit overmodeled, what with being a super tank killer that everyone has shown.

There's an easy solution to your kinetic energy problem: Land the plane! It's got tricycle gear! Just taxi around (at a safe distance) and try it when not moving!

[Tiger]

Originally posted by Krusty
It takes 2600lbs to kill a hangar, not 3000.

 

I've always heard/seen 3000 for a hangar.  Please point me to this 2600 reference you refer to.  I may have other incorrect data as well.

[Krusty]

It may simply come from the fact that most folks carry 1k bombs, and you need to drop 3 to kill a hangar. Practically, it takes 3k, but if you have 500lbers, you can drop 5 of them and still get the job done.

That used to be the case. I haven't done dedicated bomber missions in ages. I used to be all about the bombing of crap, not so much now.

[Mark Luper]

Originally posted by Toad
Right when all the announcement was going on my Mom was diagnosed with breast cancer.

Quitch took a back seat to the medical hoopla.

She's had the surgery and the results were as good as you can hope for; tumor out and lymph nodes clear of cancer. So she'll start radiation soon and that should be that.

Now that the family is getting clear of that situation, I expect to sit down with him and really see what he thinks.

He was happy HTC added it but other events clearly overshadowed it.

Glad things turned out well for your mom. I can certainly understand everything else taking a back seat to that.

Here's praying she continues to recover well and never has to face it again.

Mark

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Tiger
I've always heard/seen 3000 for a hangar.  Please point me to this 2600 reference you refer to.  I may have other incorrect data as well.

Go offline, then check arena settings. Our MA's all have the same "Default" setting. Just check "Options->Arena Setup->Objects->Object Settings" for exact lbs needed for each object.
You will find out that a Hangar needs 2.7813 x 1000lbs, which translates to 3 1000lbs bombs in game. Or 5 x 500lbs & a few rockets...

[Serenity]

Originally posted by Krusty
It may simply come from the fact that most folks carry 1k bombs, and you need to drop 3 to kill a hangar. Practically, it takes 3k, but if you have 500lbers, you can drop 5 of them and still get the job done.

That used to be the case. I haven't done dedicated bomber missions in ages. I used to be all about the bombing of crap, not so much now.

If I recall, they upgraded it to 3,000lb + two or three patches ago...

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Serenity
If I recall, they upgraded it to 3,000lb + two or three patches ago...

No. See my post above.

[Serenity]

Originally posted by Lusche
No. See my post above.

I saw your post but have you checked that recently, or is that something youre recalling from a past check?

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Serenity
I saw your post but have you checked that recently, or is that something youre recalling from a past check?

It's the current status.