september 4, 07

[evenhaim]

we had a good time duke oldman dead, and really enjoyed fighting maha(i think i know who you are)lol all in all good time excpet for(fill in this blank)

[dedalos]

Originally posted by evenhaim
we had a good time duke oldman dead, and really enjoyed fighting maha(i think i know who you are)lol all in all good time excpet for(fill in this blank)

Look, I know I die a lot  but I think you misspelled my name

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by dedalos
Look, I know I die a lot  but I think you misspelled my name

He wasn't talking about you.  He was saying that Duke and Oldman were dead.  That was certainly true.

Geez, kids today, they think it's all about them.

- oldman

[dedalos]

Originally posted by Oldman731
He wasn't talking about you.  He was saying that Duke and Oldman were dead.  That was certainly true.

Geez, kids today, they think it's all about them.

- oldman

My bad.  I thought that was assumed

[KONG1]

Originally posted by evenhaim
good time excpet for(freezeman's crying )

You said to fill in the blank.

But seriously, it's good that you fly in the AvA, you like to fight and that's good, but you need a little education.

The AvA is a fighting arena not a dueling arena.

1st sortie, friendly in 1v1 asks for help, I help, kill evenfreeze, cries "Thanks for ruining my fight"

Lessons:
(1) Friendly asks for help, friendly gets help.
(2) Only an uninvited friendly deserves a "you ruined my fight".
(3) It is the invited enemys job to "ruin your fight".

Next friendly drags freezhaim into friendly territory, flies underneath 4 friendlies, 2 engage and kill him, cries "Gang", I said 2 not gang, you said WaaThereWere4, 4 there 2 engaged.

Lessons
(1) 2 not gang.
(2) fly into pack w/ zero alt - bad.
(3) Only 2 engage, count yourself lucky, say thank you.

The whining was irritating, it was as if you expected every encounter to be a 1 on 1 dueling type encounter. The AvA is a fighting arena not a dueling arena. Lesson over.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by KONG1
You said to fill in the blank.

But seriously, it's good that you fly in the AvA, you like to fight and that's good, but you need a little education.

The AvA is a fighting arena not a dueling arena.

1st sortie, friendly in 1v1 asks for help, I help, kill evenfreeze, cries "Thanks for ruining my fight"

Lessons:
(1) Friendly asks for help, friendly gets help.
(2) Only an uninvited friendly deserves a "you ruined my fight".
(3) It is the invited enemys job to "ruin your fight".

Next friendly drags freezhaim into friendly territory, flies underneath 4 friendlies, 2 engage and kill him, cries "Gang", I said 2 not gang, you said WaaThereWere4, 4 there 2 engaged.

Lessons
(1) 2 not gang.
(2) fly into pack w/ zero alt - bad.
(3) Only 2 engage, count yourself lucky, say thank you.

The whining was irritating, it was as if you expected every encounter to be a 1 on 1 dueling type encounter. The AvA is a fighting arena not a dueling arena. Lesson over.

To tell  you the truth, I am glad you made this post.  It is always OK when I get picked but if I fly like 2K close to a fight people like Simarril get pissed and leave the arena.  It is also OK for Freez to repeatedly cherry pick with his friend Skat even after he asks me if I have enough fuel for one more fight, but when it happens to them its a different story.  

So, I am also done with this respect the 1 vs 1 crap.  No one else does or they do when it is convenient for them.  

Is the JG54 hiring?

[evenhaim]

hey kong im sure you know that what you said was overly elaborated and done and tired on most of the ava folks who see this jg54 team gang shpeel every time, i know many guys in ava that dont enjoy going into the ava to get ganged and or hoed or cherryed you guys can do that in the ma.

[evenhaim]

Originally posted by dedalos
To tell  you the truth, I am glad you made this post.  It is always OK when I get picked but if I fly like 2K close to a fight people like Simarril get pissed and leave the arena.  It is also OK for Freez to repeatedly cherry pick with his friend Skat even after he asks me if I have enough fuel for one more fight, but when it happens to them its a different story.  

So, I am also done with this respect the 1 vs 1 crap.  No one else does or they do when it is convenient for them.  

Is the JG54 hiring?

wow thats not what you were saying last night:rolleyes:

and btw you cant relate main arena stuff that happend all of once to the ava thats like comparing DA to Ma....

[humble]

From the little time I spend there the AVA isnt any different then the CT was. Small fish in a smaller pond more often then not...but there is always hope I guess:)

[ergRTC]

I am astonished at the animosity about this.  The CT (which I was used to, from its inception to its end) was never the perfect place and the AvA is no different.  I love the one on one but truthfully that can only be expected when there are only 3 people in a given area.  Once 4 or more show up it is a time for wingmen (or women).  Expecting a 1 on 1 at that point is silly.  You may get it but you should not expect it or get upset when that doesnt happen.

When vulching and things like that begin to happen, senior AvA people should mention that the fight should move.  When a person is massively outnumbered (except for maha) they should just stop upping for a bit until the other side realizes that is not kosher or fun.

There is no reason to get bent out of shape.  


I remember in the hey day of the VF-27 we would have squad nights in the CT and would often have to send half of the squad to the opposing side due to number issues.  The other option was to begin escorted bomber ops.  That is always great fun.  We would even tell the other side what we were planning and let them try to intercept us.

None of this included getting bent out of shape  (well except for slash, but everyone expected that!).

I think the real advantage of AvA is that you can expect a certain level of maturity and good old manners from most people whereas in the MA you cannot expect anything but pissing contests and rampant muting.  Neither of which was common in the CT unless Shane was around.

[storch]

there were 3 JG54 guys on for a little over one hour.  when I was on the sides were 5v5.  most of the fights started as 5v5.  with the exception of one sortie as a bomber I never left the Ki61 arguably the least capable ride in there.  not a single I sent was returned and all I saw was 200 whines from the allieds side.  I didn't respond but in two or three days I'll have my fill of the 200 guff and start responding, that will give you guys double whinage one for getting beaten in the game and the other for being beaten on the text buffer.

you were outflown.  most of the other players on your team were outflown.  that is really all there was to it.

practice more perhaps you'll improve in time.  

[evenhaim]

Originally posted by storch
there were 3 JG54 guys on for a little over one hour.  when I was on the sides were 5v5.  most of the fights started as 5v5.  with the exception of one sortie as a bomber I never left the Ki61 arguably the least capable ride in there.  not a single I sent was returned and all I saw was 200 whines from the allieds side.  I didn't respond but in two or three days I'll have my fill of the 200 guff and start responding, that will give you guys double whinage one for getting beaten in the game and the other for being beaten on the text buffer.

you were outflown.  most of the other players on your team were outflown.  that is really all there was to it.

practice more perhaps you'll improve in time.  

if this comment was directed at me in no way was i outflown and id gladly DA you in most any a/c to prove so, if not then disregard this post.

[storch]

I'll DA you anyway the DA is a great place to practice.

[evenhaim]

thank you for your concern but there is no need for me to practice at this time, sad as it is your a trolling for a reaction as always and you will not recieve one:)

and i will gladly da you please pm me the days your avialable and times and i will cross check mine and find a time, and please as hard as it may be for you, try to stay civil.

[storch]

lol this from the guy who was non stop ranting on 200?  give me a break.