Pack of pit bulls kills two.

[Elfie]

Originally posted by eskimo2
quote:
That is pure BS. The fools who have to buy a Pit Bull to make up for something lacking in themselves always say that.

 

Let me guess,
You have Pit Bulls and a small…

I do not currently own a pit bull, in fact, I have never personally owned a pit bull. I have however lived with a brother who did own one and had a roommate that owned one. I have seen both good and bad pit bulls, just as I have seen good and bad examples of just about any other breed you care to mention.

As far as your implication about my manhood......is the reason you ask because you are gay and interested in me? I don't swing that way...so fugedaboutit.

[TalonX]

Originally posted by Mickey1992
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14112666/detail.html

How many more have to be mauled or killed?  I just seems senseless for this breed to continue to exist.

These animals make fine pets, but hunt in packs when loose.  I say kill them all.  Eliminate this needless threat to safety.

If the owners don't want to kill them, I say we put them to sleep at the same time.  Get some more morons out of the gene pool.

[Elfie]

These animals make fine pets, but hunt in packs when loose

Dogs by their very nature are pack animals. When we keep any dog as a pet, humans become the dog's *pack*. Let any dog run loose and he'll find a new *pack* to run with, whether it's a new human family or other dogs.

So I suppose we should just kill every dog in America.

*edit* Interesting that the dogs involved in these 2 killings weren't even pit bulls, they were American Bulldogs, yet the ranting about pit bulls continues unabated.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanbulldog.htm

[TalonX]

Well, the post was tongue in cheek...but...

All dogs will run in packs..

Many of these packs will kill deer, for example...

Like it or not, Pitbulls have a high rate of attacking humans.    Most dogs don't.

[john9001]

pit bulls or American Bulldogs, i can't tell the difference.

[TalonX]

I can't recall the breeds, but there are some that roughly fit the category of pit pulls.  Pit bull is not a breed, rather a generic term.

Boxers, for one....., bull dogs, some terriers I think.....

[AKIron]

A law just went into effect a week or two ago in Texas that makes the owner of dog involved in an attack criminally responsible if the owner was negligent in any way. Put a few bozos in prison for 10-20 and some might decide certain breeds aren't worth the risk.

[Elfie]

Like it or not, Pitbulls have a high rate of attacking humans. Most dogs don't.

   *   Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner or handler most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous.

    * An irresponsible owner or dog handler might create a situation that places another person in danger by a dog, without the dog itself being dangerous, as in the case of the Pomeranian that killed the infant (see above).

    * Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be potentially dangerous. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. One cannot look at an individual dog, recognize its breed, and then state whether or not it is going to attack.

From this link: http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

Yes, it does list pit bulls as one the leaders in fatalities and bites. I attribute this to the large number of folks that buy them for the *coolness factor* or because it's a fad. These same folks are not likely to be responsible owners, properly socializing and training the animal.

Here's a good read on why dogs bite.

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/whybite.html

[Elfie]

Originally posted by TalonX
I can't recall the breeds, but there are some that roughly fit the category of pit pulls.  Pit bull is not a breed, rather a generic term.

Boxers, for one....., bull dogs, some terriers I think.....

The American Pit Bull Terrier is closely related to the American Staffordshire Terrier and Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

The AKC no longer recognizes the APBT as a breed due to them being crossbred with other dogs. The UKC does recognize the APBT.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by TalonX


Like it or not, Pitbulls have a high rate of attacking humans.    Most dogs don't.

Cocker spaniels are widely known for their tendency to bite for no reason.  They even have  term for it, "Cocker Rage".  More people are bit by these dogs in the U.S. then by any other dog.

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[Dago]

Originally posted by Elfie
You couldn't be more wrong. There is no such thing as a bad dog, only bad (or lazy) owners.

Really?  Then why don't we read about Collies attacking people and mauling them?  Or Golden Retrievers on a rampage?    Maybe I just missed the poodles gone bad shows?

If you are right, it's all about bad dog owners, then it would seem that the really stupid mean and lazy people most always choose pit bulls.  

BTW, plenty of lazy people own dogs, but almost every other breed owned by lazy people are not commonly associate with or reported to be out mauling and killing people.  So, lets use a little common sense and keep "lazy" out of it, and just stick with the mean and stupid people.

You have proven one of my points.   The other seems to escape you, the dogs are by nature a very aggressive dog, and to deny that proven reality is just plain foolish.  

I once watched a young boy who brought a pit bull to a kids soccer game.  That pit bull tore away from that boy on his own and went after a dog 100 yards away, a dog who wasn't barking, acting aggressive, or for that matter even aware of the pit bull.  The pit bull went into full attack without provocation or suggestion from the "owner".   It is just their nature to do things like that.

So, yes, it is the owners, they tend to be less intelligent and so desperate to prove themselves bad-asses in need of attention, and the dogs are aggressive by nature, not just defensive.

[AKIron]

Foolish to think that some breeds aren't more aggressive by nature than others. Chihuahuas are an aggressive breed but you don't hear about them maiming or killing people too often, tacos yes, people no.

[SIK1]

Originally posted by Dago
That is pure BS.   The fools who have to buy a Pit Bull to make up for something lacking in themselves always say that.  

Is it really the owners?   Would it be safe to say pit bull owners are tiny donut morons who are trying to prove something by having a "bad-ass dog"?  Smarter people would realize the large number of times this happens really isn't a coincidence.

Yes, it really is the owners. I have personaly owned Stafordshire Terriers, aka pit bulls. I have never had one of my dogs attack another animal, or human being. At the time I lived in the country where there were horses, cattle, cats, other dogs, and of course people.

As a matter of fact you help support my argument in your post. It is the  "tiny donut morons who are trying to prove something by having a "bad-ass dog" " that are the problem. But to say that all pit bull owners fall into that category is like saying that all people that can quote Einstein are intelligent.

Edit to fix a grammer error before the grammer and spelling nazis found me.

[morfiend]

Look up the dog bite stats,what are the top 3 breeds to bite????
  Hmmm not PB's
 I breed and raise dogs for the show ring and think anyone who would fight a dog should be locked up.
 Any dog can and will bite,but a properly socialized dog is of little danger reguardless of breed.
 Take away the pitbulls and people will just turn to another breed. On my last count there are 106 mastif type dogs,some as much as 200 pounds.These breeds served 2 purposes,herding and guarding,whereas the PB was originally bred to fight each other and had little or no human aggression.
 The mastifs used for guarding can be some of the most dangerous dog,but we hear little of them.Why??? Because they are expensive and rare.Say whatever you like about "pitbulls" the only reason we hear about them so much is that they a cheap to get and relatively common.


Every pup starts out the same,it's the owner that makes them a good dog or a threat.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Dago
Really?  Then why don't we read about Collies attacking people and mauling them?  Or Golden Retrievers on a rampage?    Maybe I just missed the poodles gone bad shows?

According to a 27-year study of dogs in the New York City area made by Dr. Robert Oleson, of the U.S. Public Health Service, these are the 9 dogs most apt to take a nibble out of a human being. They are, in the order of their aggressiveness:

1. German shepherd
2. Chow chow
3. Poodle
4. Italian bulldog
5. Fox terrier
6. Mixed chow chow
7. Airedale
8. Pekingese
9. Mixed German shepherd


Here is an excerpt from a dog buying guide that mentions which breeds to watch out for possible aggressive tendencies and which breeds tend to be more gentle.  

Beware of THESE Dogs.
The truth of the matter is, all dogs can be provoked or egged on to bite. There's no such thing as a "bad" breed. Practically all kinds of dogs are trainable. Proper training and socialization can make otherwise violent dogs, such as pit bull terriers and Rottweilers, adorable and gentle ones.

Dog owners should have their beloved pets trained to follow basic commands like come, sit, lie and stay. Obedience training school is one way of effectively preventing many dog-biting incidents, but you should try to find time for day-to-day instruction between dog and master, as well. This helps build the bond between you and your dog; when your dog trusts you enough, he dare not attack other people, particularly YOU.

Here's a look at the various dog breeds that are considered potentially aggressive.

Chow Chows are one-person dogs that tend to bite without any warning. They are also a bit ferocious around strangers, and can be quite a tenacious fighter. So make sure to discipline this dog and set right from wrong, immediately.

The Papillon is fiercely loyal of their owners - to a fault. They can be quite possessive and standoffish to strangers.

Old English Sheepdogs are very protective of their owners so they might be aggressive if anybody tends to be too close to its owners.

A Llasa Apso often gets cranky around kids.

Rottweilers are extremely protective of their masters.

Chihuahuas aren't too fond of kids. They'd rather be with adults than play around with tots.

Toy Poodles bite people and other animals out of self defense. Unfortunately, 'playing' according to you may be perceived as a form of 'attack' to them.

Dachshunds aren't known for their patience.

Jack Russell Terriers are feisty creatures who require early training to prevent long-term biting and digging problems.

Giant Schnauzers are very dominant. They often challenge adults, particularly strangers.

Cocker Spaniels often suffer from a dangerous genetic disease known as "rage syndrome." This syndrome causes spontaneous violent action against not strangers, but actual family members. Many Spaniels have been put down because of this unwanted behavior. Check with the breeder to ensure your Spaniel is free from this dangerous dog disease.
 
The Pekingese isn't all that tolerant of strangers.

Miniature Pinschers usually have aggression issues because they've got this "big dog-little body" mind set going on.

Here's a rundown of breeds that are typically gentle but can't shake off their "bad dog" image.

Boxers are pretty good with kids. They are good watchdogs.

Bulldogs are very playful and gentle.

Great Danes, while considerable in size, happen to be kind and affectionate.

Mastiffs are especially quiet and docile.

German Shepherds are great with kids too. These are courageous, fiercely loyal dogs who, if trained properly, will be extremely gentle to family and guests.

Rottweilers are also capable of tenderness and affection. They have a bad rep, but if they trust you, you'll never have to worry.

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