Montis orange reset

[LYNX]

So the rooks reset the new terrain by Nhawk today.  The Montis map in the orange arena ..........much to the dismay on 200.

Gotta admit myself I was a little saddened that this map was only up for a couple of days.  I really rate this map highly in the current rotation.  Shame it wasn't rigorously defended against reset like the bloody GV Aces Low terrain (not my personal favourite) that was up for a better part of a week.  We get an opportunity with a decent "AIR" terrain and zammo....reset.  If it was a full on GV map Bish would have defended every GV base to the death.  We're playing "Aces bloody High" here guys. WE USE PLANES.

Now don't get me wrong after all I played a part in said reset.  My style of play an all that but what gets me is, this is the second time this map has only lasted 2 days before being reset.  It just seems to me this map is NOT being DEFENDED.  It's not OK in my opinion to moan on 200 about Montis being reset if little to nothing was done to stop it.  Sure, there was some resistance at bases but that's "not the be all to end all".  Neither is it ignoring the rest of the map while A3 / A36 furball for 2 days.  If you were one of those at 3 / 36 how could you have the nerve to moan on 200 about a reset.

Before you click the reply button I'm also aware of whats going to be said

"Rooks numbers were high"..... Countered by porking.
"Hoard rolled"......................  Countered by porking.
"Both sides ganged us".......... Countered by porking.
"I don't shoot sheds"..... no need to reply if thats the case.
"I don't care about win the war"....the above applies.

Has everyone forgotten the art of "PORKING"?  I know the rooks have...to a degree.  Strats are rarely attacked with any vigour these days and field porking ....well! whats that become?  A 190D's target practise suicide run. There are bombs and rockets and a load of planes to use to carry the stuff.  There's been a bish guy the last week bombing radar on all Rook fields.  Well good for him but what about the ords ?  What about you hanger banger bomber guys?  Ever thought of actually pork bombing something in your bomber?  As for the jabo guys....

Yes I know the acks are many.  Yes I know fuel can only be porked to 75%.  Yes I know there's many more barracks.  Yes I know the fields regain every 40 minutes when strats at 100% and yes I know there are very few willing (these days) to go PORKING with BOMBS & ROCKETS but if you don't want to be reset.........do I really have to spell it out?     P-O-R-K.

Look, if your outnumbered PORK the baddies.  Their ENY'd and prolly can't stop you.  If there is a Hoard take their toys (ords) off them.  Go after the troop ships.  Go after the enemies barracks.  Only 5 on GV bases and small fields.  If your sides being ganged by the other 2 sides why don't you introduce them to each other.  By that I mean you need to find a way to get the other two sides facing off.  


IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE RESET DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by LYNX
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE RESET DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Yep.

[DarkS1ar]

What's a Reset

[evenhaim]

tank town map only lasted like7 hours and its the best map IMHO, for air combat that is, that map never lasts long cause the furballers furball and the gv dweebs tt it, and the toolshedders toolshedd and capture bases with little to no opposition.  I remember loging out after the tt map came up came back after a couple hours flew 1 sortie then boom... reset:cry

[SFCHONDO]

I'm assuming your a Bish? or that bish were the reset country? Cause I am amazed that the Bish didn't have everything porked. Most nites I play, Bish have darn near every Rook base porked, even when there is no need to do so. I guess I fly at the wrong times or something...LOL

[ghi]

we are in "Cold War" since in 9/13/2006.
             Reset map=0

[Lusche]

Originally posted by ghi
we are in "Cold War" since in 9/13/2006.
             Reset map=0

Map resets since 9/1/2007 (=current tour):

LWO: at least 9
LWB: at least 10

Average map duration less than 3 days. Maximum map duration in this tour so far: approximately 6 days. ("Vulva", LWO)

[wrag]

Not sure if it's the older AH'rs or the newer ones but SEEMS like very few Nits wanna defend any bases.  Or go for the reset either.

They seem to prefer going after the lower numbered side of either the rooks or bish and avoiding the higher or equal numbered side rook or bish.................

I've watched base after base get takin by bish with equal or higher numbers then nits and at the same time watched most of the nits online attacking rooks which had the lowest numbers in the arena.

It was about 75 nits, 80 bish and 50 rooks.  And the bish were takin nit base after nit base while the nits ignored them and attacked the rooks who only had 1 air base left that could be captured.

Not real sure what that was about.

Pretty sure the bish got the reset...................

Is this a SCORE thing?  A vulch thing?  Fight the EASIER fight thing?

[Lusche]

Originally posted by wrag
Is this a SCORE thing?  A vulch thing?  Fight the EASIER fight thing?

I don't think that something you can generalize or even attribute to the Knights alone. Force ratios are floating, and big green darbar over enemy fields attract likeminded vulchers in every country.

Assuming your observation is right, it is most probably a combination of easier fight and a vulch thing. If you really go for (fighter) score , it's detrimental to fly with the horde into a weak defended sector.-Few enemies results in lower K/S and K/H. Constantly looking for perfect vulchin opportunites does only improve K/D. Too few targets and way too many competitors.

[Rich46yo]

Im the one taking out radars. Actually I might make 2 radar runs a night, so I spend maybe 30% of my time taking out radars. The other 70% I spend taking out tactical targets like hangars, ords...ect

                       Which is far more then most do. "Most" fly their fighters against other fighters for the kills period. I generally avoid furballs, or fly over them. Have you ever tried lining up 270 mph bombers with 10 enemy fighters coming at you?

                      I'd rather fly against strats but the game is geered towards porking airbases and using 10% of the map.

                     Gee, spending all night bombing in Lancs from 2,000' in pork runs sure sounds like fun. So what am I going to do about it? I'm going to switch sides to rooks. We'll see if they like a B-26/KI-67 stick who opens up entire fronts by taking out radars. AND, enemy fighters when they come to close to his bombers.

[NHawk]

Originally posted by wrag
Not sure if it's the older AH'rs or the newer ones but SEEMS like very few Nits wanna defend any bases.  Or go for the reset either.

They seem to prefer going after the lower numbered side of either the rooks or bish and avoiding the higher or equal numbered side rook or bish.................

I've watched base after base get takin by bish with equal or higher numbers then nits and at the same time watched most of the nits online attacking rooks which had the lowest numbers in the arena.

It was about 75 nits, 80 bish and 50 rooks.  And the bish were takin nit base after nit base while the nits ignored them and attacked the rooks who only had 1 air base left that could be captured.

Not real sure what that was about.

Pretty sure the bish got the reset...................

Is this a SCORE thing?  A vulch thing?  Fight the EASIER fight thing?

As much as I love AH, it boils down to one thing...

In general, I've watched the game deteriorate from a serious WWII Combat Simulation with strategies and tactics to win the war, to a WWII Combat Game with the war as a side feature. Older squads and players may be able to see and understand the subtle difference.

Is it the players or the game that changed? Personally I think it's the players. Players drive the way a game is played. Is either way to play correct? Yes, and long time ago I came to the realization that nothing can be done to turn it back to the way it was.

Let the bashing begin.

[LYNX]

Originally posted by SFCHONDO
I'm assuming your a Bish? or that bish were the reset country? Cause I am amazed that the Bish didn't have everything porked. Most nites I play, Bish have darn near every Rook base porked, even when there is no need to do so. I guess I fly at the wrong times or something...LOL

na mate I'm an off peak rook.  Rooks reset Montis map in LWO yesterday and it wasn't taken at all well by a few guys on 200 from Bish or Nitwits.

I personally really like that map but to use your time scale lets say "THEIR"  day shift really let "THEM" down..... then they have the nerve to complain about Rooks resetting a good map.  Like were not going to fight for a win....Pah-lease!

My grief is that to some degree I was disappointed that such a fine map, a really good "AIR" map didn't last long.  This map doesn't have mountains surrounding air bases.  Doesn't have an exorbitant amount of GV base leading only to GV bases.  It's evenly balanced and good for "AIR".  Had it been one of those, what I consider an Aces Low map, the darn thing would have taken next to a week to be reset.  From what I witnessed this map wasn't hotly contended then the loosing sides moaned about it.

What do folk want from Aces High ?.  

1)Seems to me they don't want to be contended for resets.  Evident "ON PEAK" when the losing side logs or bails to the other arena just as reset is achievable.  
2)Would much prefer to chug around in a bloody tank in a blasted game made for AIRPLANES. ffs
3)Bomb 15 minute hangers over strat:rolleyes:  (I could make a whole new thread about this one thing)

Look guys if you don't want to be RESET do something about it.  Hanging banging is only good in the very very short term.  Fighting at a base is necessary but STRAT PORKING is the KEY and, sooner rather than later.

[thndregg]

Originally posted by LYNX
Fighting at a base is necessary but STRAT PORKING is the KEY and, sooner rather than later.

Despite the loads of information on the subject, it seems most of the community knows little about how this works, and how this touches off fights if people realize the value of it.

[thndregg]

Originally posted by NHawk
As much as I love AH, it boils down to one thing...

In general, I've watched the game deteriorate from a serious WWII Combat Simulation with strategies and tactics to win the war, to a WWII Combat Game with the war as a side feature. Older squads and players may be able to see and understand the subtle difference.

I agree.

[TalonX]

The reality is that the map is just more easily reset.

The terrain, base locations, etc, just lend certain maps to being reset.

I would be very surprised to learn that there are certain maps, as alleged here, where certain countries decide not to defend, and this decision is based on the map.   Even if this were true, why pick this map to give up?

Nah.  I think it's just an easier map to reset.