Author Topic: FDR and the Devil (Read 2140 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #75 on:** October 07, 2007, 06:48:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Would like you to state categorically that the Soviet Union and its member-states didn't do anything to prevent people from moving to the USA or other countries?

No I wouldn't.

I just want to say that if someone really wanted to emigrate from USSR and wasn't involved in defense development - he could emigrate.

In Logan, QLD, I have met a Russian guy (for you he's Russian, in fact he's a Jew from Ukraine), who first came to Australia for a vacation (!!!) in 1976, applied for emigration and moved there in 1977.

I first visited the US in 1989. Keep telling me fairy-tales about "Evil Communist Regime" (tm). You guys all know better because you saw it on TV.

Boroda · « **Reply #76 on:** October 07, 2007, 06:54:55 PM »

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Originally posted by E25280
Death camps are created by control-seeking governments, not private individuals.

Here we are just one step before privately-built death camps for "ethnically unsuitable" Slavic population.

You guys see only one side of the coin. And you probably didn't even watch "Schindler's List" (sorry for spelling - I have to transcribe it from Cyrillic).

Boroda · « **Reply #77 on:** October 07, 2007, 07:03:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
Berlin Wall was to prevent a mad rush of Immigration into your workers paradise.

We need a Berlin Style wall along our southern borders. I bet out of work KGB Border Guards and Stasi come cheap.

Hmmm there indeed were Border Guard Corps of the State Security Committee.

Funny how you guys advocate emigration from USSR at the same time building another Iron Curtain.

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Originally posted by Pooh21
oh and FDR sucked, him and his whole entitlement system.

I still expect someone to tell me about an alternative to New Deal. C'mon. Do me a favor.

When I read Robert Heinlein criticizing the FDR - it makes me wonder and do some research. OTOH when I read some virtual characters screaming - I think it only proves FDR was one of the greatest politicians in world's history.

Boroda · « **Reply #78 on:** October 07, 2007, 07:04:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Hmmm there indeed were Border Guard Corps of the State Security Committee.

Funny how you guys advocate emigration from USSR at the same time building another Iron Curtain.

I still expect someone to tell me about an alternative to New Deal. C'mon. Do me a favor.

When I read Robert Heinlein criticizing FDR - it makes me wonder and do some research. OTOH when I read some virtual characters screaming - I think it only proves FDR was one of the greatest politicians in world's history.

john9001 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 07, 2007, 07:16:37 PM »

boroda. explain propose of Berlin wall.

Boroda · « **Reply #80 on:** October 07, 2007, 07:27:14 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
boroda. explain propose of Berlin wall.

Dig a little deeper and look for reasons for the blockade of Berlin in 1948, then you'll understand.

My GrandFather once arrested an American who cut into his military convoy on a Berlin highway... He said he was scared as hell, but when he gave him up to authorities - he was told that this person is a known spy. GrandFather served there in 58-65, he was a commander of a "Portable Missile-Technical base", stored nuclear warheads for medium-range missiles.

A paragraph above is just a "baika", short story for fun. I do advise You to make some research on occupation of Germany.

Chairboy · « **Reply #81 on:** October 07, 2007, 07:35:15 PM »

Goodness, Boroda, how could we research this subject when propaganda is the very foundation our flawed histories are written on, according to you?

A good, old fashioned Soviet Truth about the Berlin Wall might be exactly what we need to see through our freedom colored glasses.

john9001 · « **Reply #82 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:16:46 PM »

that's what meant, i want the real reason for the wall, was it to keep out the US spies?

Toad · « **Reply #83 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:28:47 PM »

Yes, that's why Germans on both sides of the wall partied and celebrated when it came down. Once the wall came down, it was free passage for Amreekan spies... no wonder all Germans, East and West were so overjoyed.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #84 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:40:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda

Funny how you guys advocate emigration from USSR at the same time building another Iron Curtain.

No see we wish to kick out 10 mil + then have a wall to keep them all and all their friends from getting back in. Keeping out spies is just an added bonus. Plus your wall was useless for its intended purpose. James Bond and Moose and Squirrel got in whenever they wanted to.

Stringer · « **Reply #85 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:55:35 PM »

You want to get rid of the 10 mil+ illegal immigrants.....go after the people that employ them......including the Americans that employ them....that will dry up the illegal pool damn quick.

Boroda · « **Reply #86 on:** October 07, 2007, 10:12:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Goodness, Boroda, how could we research this subject when propaganda is the very foundation our flawed histories are written on, according to you?

LOL!

You can find all you want even through the propaganda screen. You just have to employ your inter-aurial ganglia.

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Originally posted by Chairboy
A good, old fashioned Soviet Truth about the Berlin Wall might be exactly what we need to see through our freedom colored glasses.

I have to disappoint you. All I knew about the Berlin Wall in Soviet times was that it was built in 1960 after another crisis. And I have a picture of my Mother next to the Wall - she visited my Grandparents back in the 60s.

The whole situation with Berlin divided into occupation zones was quite idiotic, wasn't it? IMHO there had to be only two occupation zones there, Soviet and Polish.

lazs2 · « **Reply #87 on:** October 08, 2007, 10:39:52 AM »

which begs the question... if the wall was built because of some crisis in the 60's... why not tear it down after the crisis?

And yes.. we all know that jews were able to leave the enlightened soviet union if they had no skills that were "needed"... you guys don't much like jews do you?

To say that the walls in the soviet union were built to keep people out is insanity.

To say that we are going to build a wall to keep people in is insanity.

I have always said tho that the employers of illegals are the problem. Arrest em and any that have been proven to break the law knowingly should get a mandatory year in prison... where they would be surrounded by former employees oddly enough...

lazs

john9001 · « **Reply #88 on:** October 08, 2007, 11:36:19 AM »

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I have always said tho that the employers of illegals are the problem. Arrest em and any that have been proven to break the law knowingly should get a mandatory year in prison... where they would be surrounded by former employees oddly enough...
lazs

Arizona is trying to enact a law that pull the business license of employers that hire illegals, they said illegals are fleeing the state. Employers are crying that they will have to raise wages.

Speed55 · « **Reply #89 on:** October 08, 2007, 11:44:02 AM »

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Originally posted by john9001
Arizona is trying to enact a law that pull the business license of employers that hire illegals, they said illegals are fleeing the state. Employers are crying that they will have to raise wages.

Yeah, i saw that on the news last week and it seems to be working extremely well.
If i remember right there were a few fast food chains and some other places that actually had to close down for a few days.