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[dedalos]

Originally posted by PanosGR
Also we do not have 3D stereosopic views, so any range / closure rate indication real life view would give you, has to be provided by icons.

true. i agree with u here


The debate you should have is about what range icons should kick in and what data they should give at what range, not whether or not we should have them at all.

In this case maybe is possible and for the bombers only the icons kick in stage to be reduced to 2 or 1k. I don’t know im just making a speculation here, in terms of increasing the bombers survivability

It does not matter what range the icons kick in if it is with in firing range.  Now, how about icons for the red guy without distance?  I want to see the icon since it is hard to spot planes but the distance is not needed.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by PanosGR
In this case maybe is possible and for the bombers only the icons kick in stage to be reduced to 2 or 1k. I don’t know im just making a speculation here, in terms of increasing the bombers survivability

That is dramatically worse identification than the human eye can see.  There is an old thread that had examples of what could be made out at what range.

I seem to recall that Pyro once made visual note of (not ID) of a jetliner at a range of 70 miles when he was in the Coast Guard.

At 3,000-6,000ft aircraft identification is still easy in most cases.  Exceptions would be things like Spitfires and Bf109s from directly behind.  P-51s, Bf109s and Ki-61s were also sometimes mis-IDed as eachother from that angle.

It does not matter what range the icons kick in if it is with in firing range.  Now, how about icons for the red guy without distance?  I want to see the icon since it is hard to spot planes but the distance is not needed.

No, I don't think so.  I don't want to play chase the dot and not know if I am closing or losing ground.  The range allows me to know if it is worth pursuing.

[Rich46yo]

Gianlupo I look forward to it to.  Mind you I dont fancy myself in the upper levels of buff sticks but Ive made a lot of guys, who made a few mistakes......pay. Mostly I want to increase my gunnery skills and glean wisdom from the more expereinced sticks.

                      Frankly Im more worried about "not" getting noticed then I am in "getting" noticed. I want the action. Will I take some knocks? of course! but how else do you grow? So I'm fine with the red icons.

                     Lately I havnt been able to pull myself out of KI-67s. Why do I love that airplane? because its so fast that as long as you go in at decent alt, 10,000' or more, the fighter stick has to make one of two decisions. 1, Breaking off and heading back. Or 2, Coming in at less then optimal angles. Also many sticks underestimate the 20mm cannon and the angles, and range, that it can brought into play.

                Sloehand the thing about the 110 Ive found is that when its coming in either its going down or you are. Almost every 100 fight Ive had has been in my 6 and a slugfest until the end.

               To really get an appreciation of how deadly the 190 is you have to be in the distance watching the thing dive on another airplane. It looks like one of those hunting Hawks diving on its prey and it has the firepower to shred you quickly. In my opinion, vis-a-vis bombers, its the deadliest energy fighter there is.

[Rich46yo]

Case in point. By 147 of blue map I got into a tangle with a 190 and spit flown by guys who know what they are doing. I got the 190 but the spit was dancing around me like a, like a, like a spit.

                        I was down to bingo ammo in my tail and had 2 shot up KI-67s left. The Spit had me pure and simple. But he made one big mistake. he underestimated what nose and waist 0.50s can do. With the nose 0.50 I tickled him good and after he slashed me from the side he hung up on my low left no doubt thinking he was safe from my tail guns and my top cannon. Which he was.

                     But he wasnt safe from my waist 0.50 and I blew his wing off with it. Waist guns are very effective by the simple fact a lot of bombers sticks either dont use them, dont practice with them, or dont jump into them fast enough.

                  Here was a very good stick, in a very agile fighter, who had a bomber stick on the ropes, and he made only one mistake.

                 Waist guns are there to be used. And they are very effective. Most of all against fragile aircraft like the spit.

[Coshy]

My opinions:

1. Most dangerous in order: B17, B26, B24, Lancaster, the rest

2. Anything higher than I am. Cannons or .50s make no diff.

3. Spiral climb

4. Be patient

5. Flying too low

6. Impatience