Why is the La7 not perked?

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Yarbles
I wonder why the Spit 14 is perked based on this data?

You are not the only one
BTW, the Ta152 was also perked until a year ago.

[Krusty]

Spit14 is perked because, if memory serves, somebody at HTC (Hitech?) commented it climbs like nothing else. It's a monster, in short. Just like the F4u4.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Krusty
Spit14 is perked because, if memory serves, somebody at HTC (Hitech?) commented it climbs like nothing else.

If that is the sole reason, 109K would have to be perked too:



And remember, the 109 has about double the amount of WEP at it's disposal.

[scottydawg]

I love it when Lusche whips out his calculator.

[Rebel]

109 doesn't turn like the Spit 14.

109 doesn't retain E like the Spit 14.

109 doesn't handle at high speed like the Spit 14.  

Spit's got more ammo.

Spit's got more gas.  


She's the fire-breathing dragon Spit, dude.  Just an absolute terror.

[Yarbles]

But based on the data spit 14 isnt the killer HTC thinks it is. This is one of the reasons I would either un perk the spit or perk the LA7.

Are the Nikki figures down to Alison, I have never percieved the Nikki as massively above average.

It would be good to see more of the table and how the Spits stack up there for kill ratio and percentage of total kills.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Rebel
109 doesn't turn like the Spit 14.

109 doesn't retain E like the Spit 14.

109 doesn't handle at high speed like the Spit 14.  

Spit's got more ammo.

Spit's got more gas.  


She's the fire-breathing dragon Spit, dude.  Just an absolute terror.

Spits got more gas? Not the XIV, not by far! The K4 has more fuel, much bigger endurance, greater range. (And, as already stated before, double WEP)

Spit's got more ammo, but 65 rounds is enough when one hit kills

The difference in turning radius is not as great as many people think. Also the K4 can get it's flaps out earlier than the Spit XIV.
And the current Spit XIV FM has some issues. Its terribly wobbling around in pitch axis, just like the TA152.

[scottydawg]

The XIV is crap down low where 95% of the fighting occurs, that's why I don't understand the logic.  If a Spit was to be perked, it would logically be the clipped wing XVI, but it won't because it's kind to newbies.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Yarbles

It would be good to see more of the table and how the Spits stack up there for kill ratio and percentage of total kills.

#20 Spit XIV  K/D 1.18, 0.3% of all fighter kills
#21 Spit IX    K/D 1.15, 2.9% of all fighter kills
#25 Spit XVI  K/D 1.11, 7.2% of all fighter kills
#35 Spit VIII K/D 0.93, 3.6% of all fighter kills
#50 Spit V     K/D 0.56, 0.5% of all fighter kills
#57 Spit I      K/D 0.24, 0.1% of all fighter kills


Most kills :
#28 P51D              K/D 1.05, 8.4% of all fighter kills

[scottydawg]

Originally posted by Lusche
#20 Spit XIV  K/D 1.18, 0.3% of all fighter kills
#21 Spit IX    K/D 1.15, 2.9% of all fighter kills
#25 Spit XVI  K/D 1.11, 7.2% of all fighter kills
#35 Spit VIII K/D 0.93, 3.6% of all fighter kills
#50 Spit V     K/D 0.56, 0.5% of all fighter kills
#57 Spit I      K/D 0.24, 0.1% of all fighter kills


Most kills :
#28 P51D              K/D 1.05, 8.4% of all fighter kills

I wonder what the XIV's K/D would be if it weren't perked. Probably lower, don't you think?

[Krusty]

If it weren't perked, it would probably be flown a bit more, thus resulting in more opportunity to get better scores.

Note I said better opportunity, not necessarily better score. There's no way of knowing.

[Rebel]

Sad truth is, most everyone who takes up a 14 treats it like any other Spit- which is a very sad thing.  

It makes baby Jesus cry, the way they fly it.  

[Saxman]

Kinda like some of the people I see buzzing around in F4U-4s trying to HO and run on everything and never committing to a 1v1 even against earlier-mark F4Us. I make it a point to run them down and mercy-kill them whenever I spot them.

[leitwolf]

I hope HTC experiments with an unperked Spit14 someday.

It behaves more like an unruly 109 at low speed and is far from the benign aircraft the rest of the Spitfires are. I doubt it would be excessively popular with the crowd.

It certainly is a monster in the right hands but so are many other free planes.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by Lusche
If that is the sole reason, 109K would have to be perked too:



And remember, the 109 has about double the amount of WEP at it's disposal.

K4 is the new la7