Why is the La7 not perked?

[Yarbles]

This is a well worn post Iam sure but having compared it to other so called "dweeb" and perked planes under 10k it shines a bit too brightly.

I think its historical dissadvantages which are not modelled  would be poor build quality, unreliability and scarceity. The latter would be taken care of by a small perk factor like that applied to the Spit 14. The La 5 and Yak are comparable with the other non perked late war planes.

[Viking]

Because it doesn't imbalance the MA. There are not enough people flying it for HTC to perk it. According to HTC perking a plane has nothing to do with performance, only usage numbers.

[Xasthur]

La7s are usually flown people who are easily outmaneuvered anyway, so they're not a problem.

It gets a bit lame when good sticks fly them all the time... but whatever floats their boat.. you just have to be better than them.

[ColSuave]

Most people that try to fly it don't fly it very well, which makes it very easy to shoot down. Plus, there isn't that many of them flying all the time. I see a whole lot more Spitfires and F4Us lately.

[Saxman]

I don't know if that's the whole story, Viking. If the F4U-4 wasn't perked she's such a monster it's guaranteed that would be the only Hog you'd see, and probably the only thing you'd ever have coming off a carrier. She's most DEFINITELY perked because of performance.

IMO, the La-7's performance is generally overrated. She's fast, accelerates and climbs well under 10,000ft, but above that her performance tails off drastically. Any time I run into an La-7 above 10,000ft he's lunch unless he dives to the deck. However even under 10,000 she's not outright dominating. Late-war rides like the P-51, Tempest and F4U-4 are either a rough match for speed or not too far off. Any F4U co-E, or even if falling behind in a level chase will run her down in the zoom. She's got a lot of firepower, but IIRC the guns are generally poor ballistics.

I'm not saying she's not a good ride, but is in no way the dominating force a lot of newer players believe. She's a very beatable opponent.

[Yarbles]

All good points but the majority of players are in the middle ranks where speed, turn rate, climb rate and firepower count allot in the abscence of superior skill. I see allot of La7's as a lower middle ranking player and feel they offer unreasonable advantages in the same way as the Tempest only more so. I certainly would not feel I had any significant advantage against the La 7 in the spit 14, 16, or Tempest, 2 out of 3 of these being perked.

[Rebel]

Spit 14 is my La7 killer MUA HA

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Yarbles
I see allot of La7's as a lower middle ranking player and feel they offer unreasonable advantages in the same way as the Tempest only more so.  

But, as was already pointed out, these advantages are having no effect big impact on the arenas. If you look up the stats, La's (as well as Spit 16s or N1k's) are far from being dominating or destabilzing the arenas in any way.
Also you have to take into account that the extremely short legs usually confine the La's to base defence or short range furballs. You rarely see them venturing deep into enemy territory.


EDIT:

Current top K/D fighters in LW arenas:



I wonder why nobody asks for the 109K-4 to be perked?

[leitwolf]

Why is the K-4 not perked?

[Lusche]

[Viking]

Originally posted by Saxman
I don't know if that's the whole story, Viking. If the F4U-4 wasn't perked she's such a monster it's guaranteed that would be the only Hog you'd see, and probably the only thing you'd ever have coming off a carrier. She's most DEFINITELY perked because of performance.

"If the F4U-4 wasn't perked she's such a monster it's guaranteed that would be the only Hog you'd see, and probably the only thing you'd ever have coming off a carrier."

There you said it yourself. The F4U-4 is perked because her usage unperked would unbalance the arena. That is the only thing HTC considers when perking.

Whether it is performance (F4U-4) or great guns (F4U-1C) that causes the overuse is irrelevant. If you want a plane to be perked it is useless to point to performance as long as usage numbers are not unbalancing (like the thread starter did).

[Krusty]

Once the LAs severely disrupted the server (IMO). Not so anymore. Seems maybe after the airflow recode a lot of other planes suddenly became alot more powerful. I see far more F4us flooding the servers NOW (post-arena split) than I ever saw of LA7s before. Same for P51s and a few other planes. I think it was just the constant changing of the AH arenas and servers and airflow code, and capture rules, etc, all in a short period of time, that somehow led to the decline of the LA7 as the uber plane.


Also, I bet the spixteen has a lot to do with it, as well.

[VonMessa]

Originally posted by Lusche
But, as was already pointed out, these advantages are having no effect big impact on the arenas. If you look up the stats, La's (as well as Spit 16s or N1k's) are far from being dominating or destabilzing the arenas in any way.
Also you have to take into account that the extremely short legs usually confine the La's to base defence or short range furballs. You rarely see them venturing deep into enemy territory.


EDIT:

Current top K/D fighters in LW arenas:



I wonder why nobody asks for the 109K-4 to be perked?

Herr Lusche, you are the spreadsheet/data meister.  Where do you get these stats from in that particular form?

[Lusche]

Originally posted by VonMessa
Where do you get these stats from in that particular form?

Cut&paste from AH2 score pages, sort by K/D, abit of reformatting. A matter of 3 mins.

[Yarbles]

Originally posted by Lusche
But, as was already pointed out, these advantages are having no effect big impact on the arenas. If you look up the stats, La's (as well as Spit 16s or N1k's) are far from being dominating or destabilzing the arenas in any way.
Also you have to take into account that the extremely short legs usually confine the La's to base defence or short range furballs. You rarely see them venturing deep into enemy territory.


EDIT:

Current top K/D fighters in LW arenas:



I wonder why nobody asks for the 109K-4 to be perked?

I wonder why the Spit 14 is perked based on this data?