Strato Bomber DWEEBS!

[Fatty]

I don't have a problem with buffs going stratosphere, and I'm always on the hunting side (flown maybe 1 bomber sortie this tour).  If they want to spend an hour getting up there, risk still getting hit and failing (38s can still catch), all to knock out radar for 1/2 hour, more power too them.  Sure it's frustrating to see them go overhead, but moreso because I didn't scramble soon enough to intercept than it is because they're too high.

The only time I see a problem with this is when they fly off the map to gain alt.  I haven't seen this in a bit, I don't know whether it's not possible anymore or people just haven't been doing it as much.

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Fatty
FAT DRUNK BASTARDS

[Spooky]

My only problem with Strato-buffs is the incredible bomb accuracy.
I'd like to see a WW2 account of a B17 hitting a single gun emplacement from 30k with a single bomb !
Could such a precision have been available then, the war would have ended in 1943 !!

In-game however, if a guy wants to spend 30 mns watching his alt gauge turn,I have no problem with that...
I am definitely waiting for a historical arena anyway ,feels more "immersive" to me...


Spooky says :
"Just meet me and YOUR score WILL go up   "

[Dinger]

Alright, I love a good brawl.
Hopefully this will be a thing of the past.
Something hasn't been mentioned though:
In the 25-30k range, lone buffs have a pretty good chance of defending themselves against enemies.  No really.
Going any higher is ridiculous, but let's face it: If it isn't challenging, they will get bored and go away.
When I see someone that high, I make a couple informational comments on some nasty channel, and let it go.  I ain't gettin' my panties into a knot over it.

[CRASH]

Yes, you are  
CRASH

 

I'm not a dweeb because I fly a Spitfire
Sisu

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[CRASH]

If the equipment supports it, people will do it.  The only fix is :
1.  get rid of the laser guided bombs.
2.  fix the buff ceiling.  
All the rest is just hot air.

CRASH

[RANKER_ONE]

Greetings people

I am too totally tubular "mad" to write in here what I am
realy thinking about MOXIBABY ....and others who are writing same stupidity..

I am a 100% bomber guy I dye more often then
a figther but someone as to do the job  

MOXI no figthers is easy for you to kill so you are crying out for easyer pray is that mean that you are not even a good figther ?? I personnely would not want a kid like you in my team sry to say.

MOXIBABY for 5 days fly only B-17 and go fly
trough Bish or Rooks territorie to bomb ther
HQ after those 5 days.......
(without flying a figther)then come back here
and tell us about your feilings THEN and THEN
only I will be more interresting reading your
complains.

I DARE YOU MOXI or sh..........



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 Best regards gents

Ranker...out!!!

[Mox]

 

Originally posted by Rude:
So....The Wrecking Crew Frowns on this eh?

Hate to pop ur bubble, but I dont think anyone cares  

Rude Out!

BTW Rude you know damn well I started this thread because I caught (what I thought was
honorable pilot) doing exactly this... IT WAS YOU!  I have it all on film, you being shot down by me at almost 40K.

Did I enjoy it?  No it was a complete waste of time but I try to catch all the strato dweebs when I can, and film it.

So I guess *****The 13th TAS***** is one of the less than honorable squads around. IMHO.
I guess the only worse thing you could have done was alt-f4 when I got to you.
Flame away guys....

Mox
The Wrecking Crew

[Mox]

 

Originally posted by RANKER_ONE:
Greetings people

I am too totally tubular "mad" to write in here what I am
realy thinking about MOXIBABY ....and others who are writing same stupidity..

I am a 100% bomber guy I dye more often then
a figther but someone as to do the job  

MOXI no figthers is easy for you to kill so you are crying out for easyer pray is that mean that you are not even a good figther ?? I personnely would not want a kid like you in my team sry to say.

MOXIBABY for 5 days fly only B-17 and go fly
trough Bish or Rooks territorie to bomb ther
HQ after those 5 days.......
(without flying a figther)then come back here
and tell us about your feilings THEN and THEN
only I will be more interresting reading your
complains.

I DARE YOU MOXI or sh..........

I'm not sure I understand what the hell your trying to say in English BUT if you go look at my scores you will see I spend a lot of time in Bombers and c47.

I do not fly fighters often and when I do I don't fly them well.  

Mox
The Wrecking Crew

[RANKER_ONE]

Why then are you biching agains us when we
try to save our bellybutton doing a mission ???
check what weazel wrote he is right 100% you
should know that then ????

I appologies I know I was rude cause I was piss I am not knowne to be rude with people
so I am very surry MOX please accept my apologies.

Regarding my English writing well I trie to
do my best because you see not too many fellows  here write french  

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 Best regards gents

Ranker...out!!!

[Mox]

 

Originally posted by Beefcake:
OK OK LET THE FULL TIME BOBMER PILOT HAVE A SAY IN THIS!!!!!!! Thank you. Now many of you know that I fly buffs full time, so of all ppl I should know what it's like. K now why I get high alt is so you can't shoot me, and whats wrong with that? Nothing right? And another thing, I never fly above 25k, it takes too long to get there anyway. I rememeber yesterday in the arena Mox, when you and I where talking. I rememeber I told you that it took 1 hour for me to reach 25k in a half loaded 17, where as it took you only 10 mins to reach 25k in your fighter. Plus it only takes 1 or 2 hits from your dweeb plane (F4U-1C) to take me down. So listen, it offends me that someone calls me a dweeb because I fly high. I don't call you a dweeb because you fly your fighter high, now do I? So please just STOP IT, as buff driving is already HELL, and you don't have to make it harder.

Capt'n Beefcake

Beefcake <S!> for not flying above 25K!

For the record I rarely ever fly the uber Cannon Hog because I feel it's got it's own problems (the guns of course).  The F4UC's guns are WAY overmodled in my opinion, but thats just my opinion... they will be tuned down in due time.

Beef if you don't fly high then this entire thread does not apply to you!  

Mox
The Wrecking Crew

[Mox]

 

Originally posted by RANKER_ONE:
I appologies I know I was rude cause I was piss I am not knowne to be rude with people
so I am very surry MOX please accept my apologies.

Regarding my English writing well I trie to
do my best because you see not too many fellows  here write french    

No problem Ranker.  If you had written it in French I would have had to get it translated =)!

See ya up there Ranker!

Mox
The Wrecking Crew


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[Toad]

Mox,

Please do go on about the 20mm on the F4. You say they are overmodeled? If they are, I'll stand with you to get them fixed.

What do you base your opinion on? Do you have military experience with the 20mm or other weapons? Have you done any ballistics tests in the game and compared the results to those you would get from readily available ballistics programs?

Are you not arguing the ballistics but find the damage they do unacceptable? Do you have any experience in this area?

Have you flown aircraft equipped with the 20mm in some country's air force?

Please let us know the experience base from which you form your opinion.

[funked]

Don't hate tha playa, hate tha gaaaaaaame!

The BUFFs need fixed flight models and a realistic Norden.  That will be the end of the strato-dweebs.

[Mighty1]

Buffs over 35k are a pain but they can be killed in a 38.

I've been over 40k in a 38 so I don't see what the problem is.

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Mighty1
The New Baby Harp Seals

"Come try to club THIS Seal"

[Staga]

Buffs are able to fly high but so does p38  
 
I think it's our own fault if somebody came @35k with b17 but none of us is over 25k waiting him/her...
After all we usually know where he/she is heading...
I've seen few times couple b17 in very high alt but it's usually enough if you send one of 'em down    
(Too)Often my p38 is also going downstairs with quite impressive speed but so what ?
Theres new one waiting in hangar  

 Staga

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