Strato Bomber DWEEBS!

[coyote]

 

Originally posted by Spooky:
My only problem with Strato-buffs is the incredible bomb accuracy.
I'd like to see a WW2 account of a B17 hitting a single gun emplacement from 30k with a single bomb !
Could such a precision have been available then, the war would have ended in 1943 !!

Alas, one more person who can't see the BIG picute   1 BUFF IN AH HAS GOT TO BE ABBLE TO DO THE SAME WORK AS A WHOLE BOMB GROUP WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IN REAL LIFE OR NOBODY WOULD FY THEM BECAUSE YOU COULD NEVER GET ENOUGH OF THEM IN THE AIR TO DO ANY GOOD!!!!!

Why must such obvious things be explained!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Argggggh!!!!!!!!!!! Shoot me now!.. NO Really! Shoot me! Some of you will jump at this chance!!!!!!!!!!!



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Coyote

[eskimo]

Yea, what coyote said!

B-17's had about a 1% hit rate.  In this game you could do better dive bombing in a fighter.  If the buffs were to be made historically acurate, this game would become nothing but a big furball because there would be no field captures and tactical/strategic bombing.  
What this game needs is to create even more of an incentive to fly buffs, not eliminate the few incentives that exist.

eskimo



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[eskimo]

The bottom line is that if you are in the fighter, then YOU get to decide when and if you will fight a buff.  If you are frustrated with a buffs ability to defend itself, then you suck at buff attack! (like me   )  Heck, they are dying 2 to 1 against fighters.  
Quit your dang whining!  What do you expect?  How high should the kill ratio against buffs go? 20 to 1?  You dweebs would probably still whine!  
I can just see the posts now:

"Last night I attacked a formation of 20 B-17's and only shot down 16 of them before I was killed!  This is outragous!  Historically B-17's were only defended by school boy's with slingshots!  This game sucks... bla bla bla"

Hey, I'll fly buffs at those odds!  Sounds like fun... got nothing better to do than to fly for an hour just to be someones cannon fodder.  I like being killed. In fact I think that I will just go taxi into the control tower about 75 times and then call it a night!  I can die even more that way!

Think about it guys,... it's a GAME!  If you don't want the other guy to stand a fair chance, then go buy a box sim and check the box that says "beginner"

eskimo

[eskimo]

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eskimo

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[eskimo]

(I can't see my reply and don't know if this is my 3rd resonce, or if they keep getting lost?)

Hmmm,... I don't see any of the GOOD buff hunters complaining about buff modeling and tactics.

eskimo

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[Downtown]

Some of the Crew have taken to 30K+ buff runs, they are not a challenge, and I call them Dweeb Runs.

It was much more fun to intercept the Buffs at 30K+ in a G10, even though I was shot down.

Because I have only seen the Bish bomb our dar from this height I will only bomb the bish Dar.  IF I see the bish stop I will stop.

It is a really lame thing to do, I would rather organize a realistic multi bomber raid with escorts!

Is this sim about Laser accurate bomb sites, Bombers that can easily fly above their service ceiling? or is it about ACM.

We need a strategic shift in thinking/game play to make bombers important, give them a mission.

We need a reason for folks to fly more buffs.

This will give folks a reason to attack bombers, and others a reason to defend them.

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"Downtown" Lincoln Brown.
  lkbrown1@tir.com  
 http://www.tir.com/~lkbrown1
Wrecking Crews "Drag and Die Guy"
Hals und beinbruch!

[coyote]

Downtown, no offense, but you are a Moron... Oh hell with it , I hope I offended u!   I won't waste my breath destroying your weak points since It is highly doubtful your IQ level could handle the stress...  

[Downtown]

I flew a 26 or 28k sortie against the Nits last night, I hit a pony, who must have ditched, (No Kill   ) then I think I got a spit (Blew Up Real Good   ) then I put a lot of rounds into a third spit, but the P-38 with him shot me down.

Much more interesting and enjoyable run.

Again my 30K protest will continue, I only know to fight fire with fire, I leave strategy to those who can think more originally.

When I stop seeing buffs over 30K I will stop flying buffs over 30K.

I wasn't making points, I was stating my opinion, you are entitled to yours, everyone has one, just like everyone has an A******.

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"Downtown" Lincoln Brown.
  lkbrown1@tir.com  
 http://www.tir.com/~lkbrown1
Wrecking Crews "Drag and Die Guy"
Hals und beinbruch!

[Staga]

*punt*

[Citabria]

this thread is 3 months old... it's irelevant

[-towd_]

yea it is hog guns are still touch of death enabled. and alot of strato buffs (no 17 ever went 300 kn level at 15 k with a full bomb load and im not a pilot at all) alot of us feel that the 50s are still way to weak as far a damage ( am i a balistics expert no)but it aint a balistics question its a damage question. and i for one have just stoped chasin buffs ( just like in wb) because of the silly edge they have.