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Offline Furball

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US Navy nearly fires on Iranian Ships
« on: January 07, 2008, 02:53:33 PM »
Haven't seen a post about this... you miss it?!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1299660,00.html

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Iranian Revolutionary Guard boats have threatened three US Navy ships in the strategic Strait of Hormuz in what is being called a "serious provocation".
 
Typical US Navy shipsAmerican forces were on the verge of firing on the vessels after being harrassed and provoked, according to Pentagon officials.
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Re: US Navy nearly fires on Iranian Ships
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 02:55:33 PM »
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Haven't seen a post about this... you miss it?!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1299660,00.html


Nope, didn't miss it. Just didn't find it to be earth shaking, and really, not too terribly news worthy. More like a minor attempt at provocation.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 03:24:39 PM »
We learned from the Brits that the Iranian rubber boats are piloted by crazies and are a threat to be reckoned with.  I am surprised the Navy let them get within 200 yards without blowing them up.  Does no one remember the USS Cole?

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 03:28:03 PM »
poke a tiger with a stick, you gona end up dead.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 04:00:11 PM »
I think it is embarrasing that NAVY let those monkey boats get so close.  

Thats really bad form NAVY :mad:

Dont let there be a next time.
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 04:00:48 PM »
Yeah it was smart of the Navy not to poke the tiger.

I suspect tho that a poking while remaining at a distance from the ship was what the tiger was looking for so they could show the world how they got poked without beeing close enough to be a threat.

Good call imo. They kept their cool and the tiger left looking like a fool.

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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 04:01:33 PM »
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poke a tiger with a stick, you gona end up dead.


That's very ironic, considering what recently happened.  I wonder if it was intentional.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 04:15:10 PM »
Tiger?  who are you fooling?

chances are very good that this was a failure of shipboard defenses to adequately ID and prioritize incoming threats.

NAVY should have blasted them out of the water at the half mile mark.   Should have destroyed them outright.  I would not be suprised to find disciplinary charges coming to those responsible for allowing a threat to come so close.  

This confrontation was not a success for the NAVY nils.....not by a long shot.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 04:15:43 PM »
Wait...You can get a good look at a t-bone steak by sticking your head up the bulls arse? or was it the butchers?  lmfao.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 04:19:18 PM »
Here are some photos of some Iranian patrol boats:








As you can see, the larger ones can carry two powerful anti-ship cruise missles.   They can strike from a good distance away.

The boats must have been some smaller speedboats, like this one below:





Fortunately all of the Iranian Navy Sailors wear florescent orange, so they are easy targets to spot!  :lol :lol

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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 04:21:42 PM »
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Tiger?  who are you fooling?

chances are very good that this was a failure of shipboard defenses to adequately ID and prioritize incoming threats.

NAVY should have blasted them out of the water at the half mile mark.   Should have destroyed them outright.  I would not be suprised to find disciplinary charges coming to those responsible for allowing a threat to come so close.  

This confrontation was not a success for the NAVY nils.....not by a long shot.


 Falling for a provocation would have been a much bigger success eh?

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 04:26:33 PM »
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Falling for a provocation would have been a much bigger success eh?


Seems probable Iran will push it too far one of these days and force a shooting confrontation. Might have better if the US Navy had fired on 'em. Might have prevented a larger conflict later. Time will tell.
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 04:27:31 PM »
Hard to say nils, but at some point you need to let your antagonist know where the line is that must not be crossed.  We lost that opportunity here.
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 04:43:57 PM »
If I'm not mistaken the Iranians have just as much right to be in international waters as your navy has.

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 04:54:43 PM »
The right to be there, yes. But hostile posture and threatening messages to vessels flying the flag of another state IN those international waters is BAD. If the US ships had strayed into Iranian territorial waters would have been one thing, but Iranian vessels have no business threatening ANY nation's ships in INTERNATIONAL waters.

Incidentally Furball, your thread subject is misleading as the Americans never actually fired on the Iranian ships.
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