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Offline JB88

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2008, 02:08:10 PM »
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You kidding right?You really think that armed farmer has chance against a trained solder?


um.

revolutionary war?!

(tap tap tap...helloooooo)

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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2008, 02:09:29 PM »
waiting for the "yah, but that was a long time ago and soldiers are that much better now" arguement...which is a logical fallacy.  all things being relative.
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2008, 02:10:04 PM »
and lets not forget how many farmers were once trained as soldiers.
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2008, 02:23:16 PM »
trained soldiers?  most armies that are scraped together by tyrants are nothing more than gun toting thugs..  mostly their training consists of stopping a bullet.

KGB.. in russia that you so admire... they sent farmers out with one rifle for every three men and set up the machine guns behind the lines to shoot any of these "highly trained soldiers" who broke and ran.

I think I could stand up against such an army well enough.

history makes a mockery of your theory in any case..  it is rife with citizens destroying powerful armies and making them run.  

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2008, 03:14:59 PM »
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trained soldiers?  most armies that are scraped together by tyrants are nothing more than gun toting thugs..  mostly their training consists of stopping a bullet.

KGB.. in russia that you so admire... they sent farmers out with one rifle for every three men and set up the machine guns behind the lines to shoot any of these "highly trained soldiers" who broke and ran.

I think I could stand up against such an army well enough.

history makes a mockery of your theory in any case..  it is rife with citizens destroying powerful armies and making them run.  

lazs

We talking genoside or war?Armenians had guns in 1915 didnt help did it.
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2008, 03:19:23 PM »
Or we saying if jews had guns they wouldnt be dead?
History makes mockery of my theory:)?
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2008, 03:47:55 PM »
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"ALL ACTS OF GENOCIDE ARE PRECEDED BY GOVERNMENT RESTRICTIONS OF PERSONAL WEAPONS."

Is that a quote from this  webside?Idaho Observer?
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In 1999 Australia mounted a massive gun confiscation effort. Citizens surrendered 640,381 firearms. The results? Homicides are up 3.2 percent; assaults are up 8 percent; and armed robberies have increased 44 percent. In the Australian state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300 percent
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http://www.aic.gov.au/stats/crime/homicide.html
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2008, 04:03:42 PM »
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You kidding right?You really think that armed farmer has chance against a trained solder?


Yes I do.

Considering the fact that many of the soldiers are also family/
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2008, 04:05:44 PM »
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Or we saying if jews had guns they wouldnt be dead?
History makes mockery of my theory:)?


Warsaw was interesting.
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2008, 04:37:35 PM »
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You kidding right?You really think that armed farmer has chance against a trained solder?


Considering I grew up in farm/ranch country (Oklahoma, South Dakota, and Iowa) I'd say hell yes they would. Everyone I know that owns a farm/ranch has a decent arsenal of high powered weapons in their homes. They also know the lay of the land much better than that "trained soldier". They also know how to shoot all those weapons they have because they feed their families with what they kill with them or they use them on a regular basis taking care of nuisence critters.

Last thing on earth you want to do is piss off an angry farmer/rancher when he's holding a gun.:aok
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2008, 04:44:37 PM »
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Partisan's can be very effective in warfare-Just having them in an area can tie down occupying forces' that would normally be used in the front line.

You could ask The Germans (On any front they fought on in WWII), The Japanese, or the Italians' from that period. You could ask the British Redcoats' during the Revolutionary war.

(Hopefully, all the other responses' to your post are as nice as this one.)


You can also ask our own soldiers in Iraq and  Afghanistan.

And no Im not referring to the insurgants as partisans
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2008, 04:49:03 PM »
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Considering I grew up in farm/ranch country (Oklahoma, South Dakota, and Iowa) I'd say hell yes they would. Everyone I know that owns a farm/ranch has a decent arsenal of high powered weapons in their homes. They also know the lay of the land much better than that "trained soldier". They also know how to shoot all those weapons they have because they feed their families with what they kill with them or they use them on a regular basis taking care of nuisence critters.

Last thing on earth you want to do is piss off an angry farmer/rancher when he's holding a gun.:aok

I'm sure these skills will come handy  in case thers an abrams or cobra in neighborhood.
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2008, 04:54:13 PM »
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You kidding right?You really think that armed farmer has chance against a trained solder?

How much easier is it without the gun?
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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2008, 05:34:34 PM »
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How much easier is it without the gun?
:rolleyes:

You will surrender your firearm if you forced to do so.All that bravery will go right the f#%k out the window.
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2008, 10:53:47 PM »
Sounds like it's just you that's a quitter..
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