Author Topic: Okay, P-39Q is on the way.... (Read 4015 times)

Raptor · « **Reply #90 on:** February 03, 2008, 04:33:30 PM »

P39 is a US bird but also a USSR bird so I wanna see a Japanese bird or two

moot · « **Reply #91 on:** February 03, 2008, 05:58:11 PM »

Me410. The 8x20 mod was probably a one-off, but it was proven to work in combat action, so maybe HTC will allow it as a very hard to get field mod in CT.
The 410 could carry a lot of other guns, from classic combinations we have in the 110G2, to stronger stuff like MK103s, BK3.5 and possibly other stuff too. Its cockpit floor also had a glass section right near the pilot's feet, so it would make lead shots much easier to track.
It also had some remote controlled rear guns and was dead sexy to boo.

MajIssue · « **Reply #92 on:** February 04, 2008, 10:30:17 AM »

The Biggest laugh I get is reading how some actually WANT the Brewster Buffalo!!! I would LOVE to see one... in the gunsite of my 109G14 or SpitIX... EASY KILL... Pad my poor fighter score...

Nobody is brave enough to say (FLAME RETARDANT SUIT, ON) the B-29 Superfortress. We need another perk'd bomber badly and the ONLY one that would be a match on deep penetration raids against 163s and 262s would be Beoing's best of the war... Bring on the Superfort!

disclaimer: This is NOT a troll

Yossarian · « **Reply #93 on:** February 04, 2008, 12:59:18 PM »

Ok, sounds nice (<-- BIG understatement)

I found this website which mentions Me-410s with at least 4 20mms (search for B-2/U-3/R-5): Here

Anyway, I think it would be nice to have the B-29, for the reasons MajIssue gave, and the Me-410 (with an option for as many 20mms as it ever carried), both with extremely heavy perks.

Here's my logic: the Me-410 could join the 262s and 163s as being only spawnable from bases right near HQs (maybe the same for B-29s), so then people with loads of bomber perks could up several B-29s on an HQ mission, shoot it out with the Me 262s, 163s & 410s, and then see what happens. Neither of these planes would probably unbalance things too much, as they'd only be spawned from bases near HQs (aside from the 262), and they'd have huge perk prices anyway.

~~Yossarian~~

Yeager · « **Reply #94 on:** February 04, 2008, 01:19:15 PM »

The 8x20 mod was probably a one-off, but it was proven to work in combat action, so maybe HTC will allow it as a very hard to get field mod in CT.
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moot · « **Reply #95 on:** February 04, 2008, 01:24:01 PM »

Yossarian the 410 is a prop, why put it in the same category as 262s and 163s? It was used in more or less the same role as the 110. It most likely (allowing for some unhistorical ACM flogging here in AH) couldn't compare with pure fighters like the P51 or 109.

Yeager is that a white flag tucked between your legs? - snork

Yossarian · « **Reply #96 on:** February 04, 2008, 02:08:13 PM »

I meant as in all three (or 4 if you count the B-29) planes have something that makes them really stand out from others:
Me-262-- jet engines
Me-163-- rocket engine
Me-410-- COULD have at least six 20mm cannons (perhaps 8; not sure)
(B-29-- able to carry huge bombloads long distances etc)

I'm sure the 410 couldn't compare with the P-51 or Bf-109 etc, but some variants did have 6x 20mms

Yossarian

Karnak · « **Reply #97 on:** February 04, 2008, 02:48:00 PM »

410 shouldn't be base limited, yet alone perked. It is a neat airplane, but isn't any better than a Mossie or Bf110 really. In one case I am familiar with one tried to dive away from two LF Spitfires and was subsequently run down and killed on the deck. An FB.VI Mosquito would have escaped.

moot · « **Reply #98 on:** February 04, 2008, 02:58:35 PM »

The 410 could have 8 mounted, or a pair MK103, or a BK3.5 even, but that's not nearly enough to warrant perking it. The 8x151/20 would definitely be a perk loadout - though probably not in the MA unless a lot of other planes also got their rare and/or extreme loadouts.
It will probably have 6 20mm, but that's nothing really special, it's less than the 110G2 has (4x20+2x30). Like Karnak said the plane itself was no flying wonder, just an overengineered swiss knife that didn't go very fast nor handle very lightly.

Yossarian · « **Reply #99 on:** February 04, 2008, 05:00:21 PM »

Well, so much the better

After your posts, I still think that such large fire power warrants a much smaller perk, perhaps equal to or a bit more than that of the F4U1-C, if only to prevent over-use in the roles of ground-attack and the probably rare snapshot (although I doubt it would be much more successful than the Bf-110 in the latter role).

Also, are there any loadouts that are perked for planes? I was under the impression that only the planes themselves could be perked.

~~Yossarian~~

Karnak · « **Reply #100 on:** February 04, 2008, 06:17:48 PM »

They are planning a perked loadout system. They said that was the reason the F4U-1C was not remodeled.

Yeager · « **Reply #101 on:** February 04, 2008, 07:26:37 PM »

Yeager is that a white flag tucked between your legs? - snork
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Tell you what..... I'll give you eight 20s if you'll give me one B-29

moot · « **Reply #102 on:** February 05, 2008, 03:09:48 AM »

I'll see your B29 and raise you a BK5 in the Me410's nose.

VansCrew1 · « **Reply #103 on:** February 05, 2008, 05:22:07 AM »

If you all remember the poll we took on what plane we wanted next the B25 won. The P39 was the second most wanted losing by not even a percent. I think what their doing is going in the order of what planes got further in the voting. That's just my guess the B25 won the P39 second and they came out in that order.

Yossarian · « **Reply #104 on:** February 05, 2008, 09:34:01 AM »

Well, here's a USAF website about the BK-5 cannon (I don't really know why I put that there, but still...)

It would be a fun loadout, I'm sure, but I think I'd still prefer 8x 20mm cannons pointing ahead of me.