battle ships

[Krusty]

hard for anyone to cry "not historically significant" (as they like to do)

They're significant the way nuclear weapons in the coldwar were. They were the grand standoff threat. They were the ultimate status symbol for budding superpowers, so they simply had to be had.

However, the first major battle in WW2 with 'em, both sides were too afraid to commit them to battle, for fear of LOSING any!!!

You'll find cruisers, destroyers, and carriers went into harms way and got the job done a LOT more than battleships did.

I'd like to see one in-game, sure, but there were relatively few battleship-v-battleship actions in the war (compared to most action you'd find).

Japan seemed to be the only nation that really relied on them as the spearhead, and even at the end they pulled them away from the fight so they couldn't get destroyed by the US Navy.

[1sum41]

Arnt  we amazing

[1sum41]

We are like little bullies

[EskimoJoe]

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[Krusty]

You see, this is why we can't have civilized discussions on these forums anymore... 

[DaddyAck]

KMS Bismarck.

Main Armament-

Designation: 38 cm SK C/34
Number: 8 (2 x 4) in four twin turrets two forward, two aft
Barrel length (L/52): 19.630 meters
Bore length (L/48.5): 18.405 meters
Barrel weight: 110.7 metric tons
Barrel rifling:
 · Groove depth:
 · Groove width: 90 grooves, right handed twist.
4.50 mm
7.76 mm
Turret weight (without barbette):
 ·  Anton:
 ·  Bruno:
 ·  Cäsar:
 ·  Dora:
1,048 metric tons (without 10.5-m rangefinder)
1,056 metric tons
1,056 metric tons
1,056 metric tons
 
Elevation range: between -5.5° and +30°
Training range:
 ·  Turrets Anton and Bruno:
 ·  Turrets Cäsar and Dora:
215º - 0º - 145º
035º - 180º - 325º
Training rate: 5.4°/second
Elevation rate: 6°/second
Rate of fire: 2.4+ rounds/minute/barrel
Maximum range: 35,550 meters at 30° = 38,880 yards at 30°
Muzzle velocity: 820 meters/second = 2,690 feet/second
Shell weight: 800 kg = 1,764 lbs
Propellant charge weight: 212 kg = 467.3 lbs
Ammunition supply:
 ·  38cm Psgr. L/4,4 (m.Hb):
 ·  38cm Spgr. L/4,5 Bdz (m.Hb):
 ·  38cm Spgr. L/4,6 Kz (m.Hb):
Total:
353 base fused AP shells
338 base fused HE shells
313 nose fused HE shells
1,004
Barrel life: 200-300 rounds
Loading angle: 2.5°

Secondary Armament-

Designation: 15 cm SK C/28
Number: 12 (2 x 6 ) 3 twin turrets by side
Barrel length (L/55): 8.25 meters
Barrel weight: 9.08 metric tons
Barrel grooves: 44
Turret weight (without barbette): 108 metric tons
110 metric tons (central)
Elevation range: between -10° and +40°
Training rate: 8°/second
Elevation rate: 9°/second
Rate of fire: 8 rounds/minute/barrel
Maximum range: 23,000 meters at 40° = 25,150 yards at 40°
Muzzle velocity: 875 meters/second = 2,871 feet/second 
Shell weight: 45.3 kg = 99.8 lbs
Propellant charge weight: 23.5 kg = 51.8 lbs
Ammunition supply:
 ·  15cm Spgr. L/4,5 Bdz (m.Hb):
 ·  15cm Spgr. L/4,6 Kz (m.Hb):
622 shells
666 shells
Barrel life: 2,500 rounds

Heavy AAA Guns-

Designation: 10.5 cm SK C/33
Number: 16 (2 x 8 ) in 4 double mounts by side
Barrel length (L/65): 6.825 meters
Barrel weight: 4.56 metric tons
Mount weight: Mounting C31: 27.350 metric tons
Mounting C37: 26.425 metric tons
Elevation range: Mounting C31: between -8° and +80°
Mounting C37: between -10° and +80°
Angular velocity: Mounting C31: vertical: 10°/sec, horizontal: 8°/sec
Mounting C37: vertical: 12°/sec, horizontal: 8.5°/sec
Rate of fire: 18 rounds/minute/barrel
Maximum range: 17,700 meters = 19,357 yards
Vertical range: 12,500 meters at 80º
Muzzle velocity: 900 meters/second = 2,952 feet/second
Shell weight: 15.1 kg = 33.1 lbs
Ammunition supply: 6,825 shells

Medium AAA Guns-


Designation: 3.7 cm SK C/30
Number: 16 (2 x 8 ) in 4 double mounts by side
Barrel length (L/83): 3.071 m
Elevation range: between -10º and +80º
Rate of fire: 80 rounds/minute/barrel
Maximum range: 6,750 meters = 7,382 yards
Muzzle velocity: 1,000 meters/second = 3,281 feet/second
Shell weight: 0.745 kg = 1.64 lbs
Ammunition supply: 34,100 projectiles

Light AAA Guns-

Designation: 2 cm MG C/30
2 cm Flak C/38
Number: 10 (1 x 10) in 10 single pedestals
8 (4 x 2) in 2 quadruple mounts 
Barrel length (L/65): 1.3 meters
Elevation range: +90º
Rate of fire: 200 rounds/minute/barrel
Maximum range: 4,800 meters = 5,249 yards
Muzzle velocity: 900 meters/second = 2,952 feet/second 
Shell Weight: 0.132 kg = 0.291 lbs
Ammunition supply: 44,000 projectiles



Also make the cruiser the KMS Prinz Eugen

[Krusty]

FYI: those are both heavy battlecruisers, if I recall. Not battleships, really.

[DaddyAck]

Prinz Eugen was a modified Admiral Hipper-class Battle Cruiser of 18,400 tons
The Bismarck is most definately a BB. weiging in at a then prohibited 50,900 metric tons.

[DPQ5]

BISMARK AND YAMOTO CLASS!!!!, spelled yamoto rong i bet.

[DiabloTX]

BISMARK AND YAMOTO CLASS!!!!, spelled yamoto rong i bet.

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Got them both wrong.

[angelsandair]

All you guys do realise that the USS Arizona exploded at Pearl Harbor, right?

Uhh thats why i dont want that class of ship. I think we should get the BB-35 class ship. Err New York class. (Battle ship Texas) But we dont nessicarily need a battle ship but then again, we didnt nessicarily need the La-7's 3rd 20mm..... We didnt really need the Spit 14 even though it can do "high alt fights" (14-19k if i recall). Just let it be an added protection to the CV. Could help solve the problem of those suicide bombers bombing the CVs all the time for extra perkies.

[Meatwad]

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How did I miss this thread

[Larry]

Can wez hav da f22 cuz id b coolz.





WTF is it with every squeaking thread having "it would be cool"? It would be cool for you kids to stop asking for stuff because "it would be cool".

[Krusty]

Larry, Meat, it doesn't help to post like that.

Angel, you should check your facts sometimes:
http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=spit5&p2=spit9&p3=spit16&p4=spit14


Regarding the Arizona:

The Arizona was a pre-war class, pretty much obsolete. It had undergone several refits to add "modern" designs to it (including the masts and tower), but was very limited as compared to an Iowa-class or later design. It would be a very bad idea to include it as the basis of any battleship included in AH.

[Larry]

Larry, Meat, it doesn't help to post like that.

It doesnt help to ask for it because they think it would be cool eather. Post some facts about what you want with a description of it and what it will be used for. Typing in english also helps it out.