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Offline angelsandair

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #120 on: April 16, 2008, 08:40:40 PM »
Definately. But I dont know crud about the Panther. Only that it may be able to kill a Tiger Tank easier then a Firefly could
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #121 on: April 17, 2008, 11:30:04 PM »
The panther was probably the best medium tank of the Second world war. The gear problem was due to the fact that it was made for much lighter tanks, and many times the slave laborers would chicle things out in the gears. This cause many problems, the battle of Kursk didn't do justice to the Tigers of panthers destructive possibilities because they were rushed into battle, later models were very affective defensive weapons, the had the movement to attack the allies in one part of Normandy and go to another to make the impression of more tanks. One other problem that panthers had were the gas tanks being mounted on the back of the tank, easily exploded to the enemy at the rear.

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #122 on: April 25, 2008, 01:15:37 AM »
It is all very well & good to have a wishlist for GV's but unless the damage model has some work done on it there is little point.
Russian tests proved that a Panzer had the same penetration power as a Tiger under 600 metres. Does that happen in the game? No.
Tigers out ranged T34's easily. Does that happen in the game? No.The distance that Panzer & T34 shells travel is inaccurate. Being able to get a kill at 3k plus is a joke.
GV's are just an add on for when you get bored flying but it would be good if modelling was bit more accurate. It would make for more interesting battles that required more stratergy & SA than just blast away until you kill them.
I enjoy killing Shermans in a Panzer but it takes some planning.But then I only ever up German armour.
Certainly bring on the Panther. I look forward to the addition.
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #123 on: April 25, 2008, 01:19:04 AM »
Definately.

But the Damage model is very complicated. There is never going to be an accurate damage model. And if there is, HTC will do it.

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #124 on: April 25, 2008, 07:04:11 AM »
Tigers out ranged T34's easily. Does that happen in the game? No.
Uhh....  :huh

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #125 on: April 25, 2008, 07:43:32 AM »
There is one thing about the Panther that I like. It's got looks. One of he best looking IMHO.
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #126 on: April 25, 2008, 09:50:10 AM »
Definately.

 There is never going to be an accurate damage model.

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there already is a accurate model....in another game.
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #127 on: April 25, 2008, 03:06:06 PM »
Tigers out ranged T34's easily. Does that happen in the game? No.The distance that Panzer & T34 shells travel is inaccurate. Being able to get a kill at 3k plus is a joke.

That statement is a bit misleading.  One would get the mistaken impression you think an AH T34 can kill a AH Tiger at 3K.  That, of course, is absurd.  The AH T34 cannot even scratch the paint on the AH Tiger at ranges beyond about 1K and it's foolish to fire on one at more than 500 yds.  This includes HVAP.


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Re: German Panther
« Reply #128 on: April 25, 2008, 04:35:26 PM »
That statement is a bit misleading.  One would get the mistaken impression you think an AH T34 can kill a AH Tiger at 3K.  That, of course, is absurd.  The AH T34 cannot even scratch the paint on the AH Tiger at ranges beyond about 1K and it's foolish to fire on one at more than 500 yds.  This includes HVAP.



I agree but did have a panzer take me out 1 shot face to face at 2k

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #129 on: April 27, 2008, 09:41:35 AM »
lucky shot. I've taken out Tigers in my panzer from 2k. You just have to hit them in the right spots. Thats all.
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Offline dirt911

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2008, 08:12:42 PM »
not that great of a tank it uses a 75mm gun so that means it cant kill the tiger or heavy tank as well :frown:

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #131 on: April 27, 2008, 08:25:47 PM »
not that great of a tank it uses a 75mm gun so that means it cant kill the tiger or heavy tank as well :frown:

Huh?  :huh

The Panther's 75 mm gun was better than the Tiger's 88 mm at penetrating armour.
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #132 on: April 28, 2008, 03:44:42 PM »
Huh?  :huh

The Panther's 75 mm gun was better than the Tiger's 88 mm at penetrating armour.

The 75mm gun on our panzer is not the same 75mm gun

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #133 on: April 28, 2008, 03:53:38 PM »
no thats not it the 75mm is a medium tank gun the tiger is a 102mm armor tank powerful :uhoh it once took 5 m4s to take down a tiger it self and the panther by no means was a match for the firefly :salute to the fire fly

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #134 on: April 28, 2008, 04:26:43 PM »
I doubt it. The Tigers even had a hard time countering against T-34s. Thats where the Panthers stepped in.

I'm pretty sure a Panther would be harder to kill since it has thick armour PLUS sloped armour. Good combination for Tanks.
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