Paramilitary police tactics misfire again

[Chairboy]

http://www.reason.com/news/show/125538.html

No-knock warrant: Check
Police using SWAT tactics: Check
No identification as police: Check
War on drugs: Check

A bad warrant is generated, there's no evidence of investigation ahead of time (it's all based on a confidential informant who appears to have burglarized the house 3 days earlier).  They kick down his door in the middle of the night, so he shoots.  Kills the first person, is taken down by the rest who then identify themselves as police.  Now he's under arrest for murder and may be facing the death penalty.

Cav58d, is this justice?

[Neubob]

Well, at least he's got a decent chance of getting that small bit of weed excluded from evidence.

Somebody once said that the only difference between cops and criminals is that they operate on different sides of the law. The abusive, above-the-law attitude being the common trait between these seemingly opposed groups.

Too harsh, perhaps, but stories like this lend credibility to the notion.

Of course, we've yet to hear the other side of the story....

[lasersailor184]

We did hear the other side of the story.  The prosecuting attorney is quoted several times in the story. 


However, all testimony and evidence shows that he's wrong.  I say imprison them all, both the raiding policeman, and the district attorney.

[Neubob]

We did hear the other side of the story.  The prosecuting attorney is quoted several times in the story. 


However, all testimony and evidence shows that he's wrong.  I say imprison them all, both the raiding policeman, and the district attorney.

I'd like to hear from the cops themselves, with details, recounting both where they got the information and the reasoning behind their course of action.

However, I like your idea of imprisoning the DA. General population.

[Hornet33]

This incident happened right up the road from my ex wifes house i.e. my old house   It was real big on the local news for about a day and a half when they were reporting it as a drug bust and an officer was killed. Once the true story started coming out about the raid and what really happened, all of a sudden it's not being reported on anymore by the local news.

Plain fact is those cops screwed up. Everyone of them should be charged with felony breaking and entry, then fired for not conducting a proper investigation about the "informants" claim, plus the dept needs to buy the guy a new door and pay all his back wages he's loosing for being in jail, the judge that signed the warrant should be disbarred and charged with reckless endagerment for signing a no knock warrant without having an investigation report from the police deptment in front of him to justify it, and the prosecuter just needs his arse beaten for even trying to go forward with this one.

I would have done the same thing that guy did.

[Russian]

I think majority of firearm owners would fire at intruder.

[Elfie]

Yet another example of why no knock raids are a bad idea.

[EskimoJoe]

I think majority of firearm owners would fire at intruder.

When I stayed home a week alone for the first time, I kept my rifle loaded and always within an arms reach. Along with that, my collection of combat knives, a tactical vest, and a loaded USP .45. Call me paranoid, but I like the feeling of security 

Anyone through that door that didn't look familiar would've be hurt...bad...

[AWMac]

When I stayed home a week alone for the first time, I kept my rifle loaded and always within an arms reach. Along with that, my collection of combat knives, a tactical vest, and a loaded USP .45. Call me paranoid, but I like the feeling of security 

Anyone through that door that didn't look familiar would've be hurt...bad...

Tonight on The Movie Channel "Serenity is Still My Name"

 

[Neubob]

When I stayed home a week alone for the first time, I kept my rifle loaded and always within an arms reach. Along with that, my collection of combat knives, a tactical vest, and a loaded USP .45. Call me paranoid, but I like the feeling of security 

Anyone through that door that didn't look familiar would've be hurt...bad...

Just remember, if anybody unfamiliar came through the door, NEVER shoot them in the cheek. It's all bone in there.

[Airscrew]

Tonight on The Movie Channel "Serenity is Still My Name"

 

Is Clint Eastwood playing the part of Serenity?

[Pooh21]

Nice shooting on the part of the citizen. 

is there a legal defense fund to donate to for this guy?

[EskimoJoe]

Nice shooting on the part of the citizen. 

is there a legal defense fund to donate to for this guy?

I'm 14    Boy oh boy I'd love to get an AR-15 and plenty of ammo 

For, uhm, home defense of course.
*cough*
 

[Neubob]

I'm 14    Boy oh boy I'd love to get an AR-15 and plenty of ammo 

For, uhm, home defense of course.
*cough*
 

Why would you quote Pooh's post prior to making the above statement?

[Airhead]

Nice shooting on the part of the citizen. 

is there a legal defense fund to donate to for this guy?

That's about as tasteless a statement as I've heard on here.

"Detective Jarrod Shivers was shot and killed while attempting to serve a narcotics search warrant at a home on Redstart Avenue at approximately 8:35 pm.

Detective Shivers was attempting to force entry into the home when the suspect inside fired one shot through the front door. The round struck Detective Shivers, fatally wounding him. The man then barricaded himself inside the home before being taken into custody and charged with murder.

Detective Shivers was a US Navy veteran. He had served with the Chesapeake Police Department for 8 years and was assigned to the Special Investigations Section. He is survived by his wife, son, and two daughters."

34 years old, survived by his wife and three kids, and you say "nice shot?" How bout saying it's a tragedy we lost a man who dedicated his life to law enforcement, and he died doing his absolute level best to protect and serve? I don't care if the perp was a pot grower or whatever, whenever we lose a police officer in the line of duty we lose just a bit of what is supposed to make us a civilized nation.

Really, Pooh- that was about as insensitive and inappropiate a comment as I've heard here. To rejoice in the death of a peace officer makes me want to agree with Eagl concerning the ignore list- and believe me, you have to be pretty gross for me to want to ignore you- if you were a video your title would be "two girls, one cup."

Un-friggin-believable.