What's with the uber maneuvers?

[SlapShot]

Then again, you never know, but since no one came out to describe how to perform that move, I think it is just a graphics issue.

Did you read the whole thread ? ... or just skip over Agent360's posts ... 

Hey Animl ... find those films yet ?

[Yknurd]

wanna bet?  I bet we go to the DA and it will bother you how bad I slap you around that arena.

Do you ever slip and challenge real people you know and work with to duels in the DA?

I'm guessing you strut around with a scarf around your neck and gloves tucked in your pocket in real life.  When someone says something that might be construed as a slight, you pop out those gloves, smack the person across both cheeks, and then ask them, "Do you want to go to the DA?!  I'll prove that I'm right and you're wrong!"

Yeah, I think that's what you do.

[SkyRock]

Do you ever slip and challenge real people you know and work with to duels in the DA?

I'm guessing you strut around with a scarf around your neck and gloves tucked in your pocket in real life.  When someone says something that might be construed as a slight, you pop out those gloves, smack the person across both cheeks, and then ask them, "Do you want to go to the DA?!  I'll prove that I'm right and you're wrong!"

Yeah, I think that's what you do.

  You decided to type to me again?   Shut it lil dweeb boi and go back under your porch.

[dedalos]

Did you read the whole thread ? ... or just skip over Agent360's posts ... 

Hey Animl ... find those films yet ?

Well, I don't think Agents post has anything to do with what I have seen.  I am just trying to explain what I have seen and what the cause may be.  I've dueled Agent many times and to be honest, I have not seen him pull anything like that.  Maybe the opportunity was not there, but in any case, I do seem to get confused on the vert at slow speeds about if the guy is going or coming.  Is that really related to anything Agent said or anything anyone else said for that matter.  It is just my opinion about my experiences.  (I think the right think to do is to roll my eyes now?  )

To be honest, what Agent described sounds like a death wish

[mechanic]

hey Ded i have had it before when poor visibility (owing to a poor computer) has confused me for a second to which direction a plane is pointing. I'm sure i have never seen a 'warp' at the top of a rope.  I am curious, as you have a slightly better reputation for honest facts in this game than the first guy to post this here so Im interested to know wht you have seen happen.

[Shane]

well, without seeing film...

a) if the plane is doing a rope, it could be very slow at the edge of a stall, and flip over naturally, which can appear weird if you're not looking, or a slight delay in position updates.

b) the original poster is very rusty and forgot the subleties/quirks of this game.

[Cthulhu]

Only longitudinal - as far as I've seen.. I think they'd probably break if you really overstressed them in such a spin, but it's pretty hard to get the planes into those high speed spins in AH. The best instance that people said looked like the plane should break up, but doesn't, was in the thread where Tango demonstrated his P51D flat plate.  I'm pretty sure I can get the Ta152 to wig out about as bad at at least that speed, and it doesn't break either.  The mossie's old spins also happened at high-medium speed, putting you in red/blackouts for the first few seconds, and it didn't break up either.
I don't think the models are rigged so that only controlled high G pullouts can cause damage (e.g. break one h-stab and the other seems to break from overstress)..  Another possibility is that the pilot is counted as dead if there's a truly catastrophic breakup.. The only one that'd match this is the 163, and probably the 262 (people have said they sometimes explode for no reason during high G maneuvers)..  But there's no way to tell if that's really a breakup or just the pilot going to mush.I actualy saw a D9 rip his wings off the other day..

I can see potentially losing the vert stab or aft fuselage in a high speed spin, and of course wing mounted ordinance/racks, but I think the sink rate needs to be pretty extreme. That way the combined vertical and lateral loads may just be high enough to break something. But IMO the failure is going to be in the fuselage, probably in the rear. Never in in the wing.

And yes I have personally ripped the wings off a D9. Do ~480mph @ SL, pull HARD and you can too.

[hubsonfire]

I only made it through the first page. Are there any films yet?

[SlapShot]

(I think the right think to do is to roll my eyes now?  )

Or maybe you need to just go get your eyes checked ya old fart ...

I too have seen planes coming at me, whether I am in a climb or a dive, and thought that I was "behind" them and to my surprize I am "facing" them. I just chalk it up to old eyes and/or a graphics glitch. For the infrequent amount of times that it happens to me ... not a big deal in the larger scheme of things.

[BaldEagl]

It happens somethimes.  One night I was chasing NKL5 toward the deck against a dark background near tank town on NDIsles.  The next thing I know he's flying straight toward me.  I never saw him turn.  I'm sure he didn't do anything wrong, just a visibility issue on my part (eyes or game... who knows).

Similarly, one night I was fighting a guy over water at dusk.  I lost him for a split second and the next thing I knew he was coming straight at me ~200 out.  All I could do was pull the trigger.  That amounted to a "I didn't expect you to HO" exchange on PM.  It ended up all good.

I definately have vision issues against the darker terrain backgrounds at times.

[dedalos]

Or maybe you need to just go get your eyes checked ya old fart ...

I too have seen planes coming at me, whether I am in a climb or a dive, and thought that I was "behind" them and to my surprize I am "facing" them. I just chalk it up to old eyes and/or a graphics glitch. For the infrequent amount of times that it happens to me ... not a big deal in the larger scheme of things.

But, that is what I also said ancient one 

Actually the eye/monitor thingie was going to be my response to Bat.

[uptown]

Do you ever slip and challenge real people you know and work with to duels in the DA?

I'm guessing you strut around with a scarf around your neck and gloves tucked in your pocket in real life.  When someone says something that might be construed as a slight, you pop out those gloves, smack the person across both cheeks, and then ask them, "Do you want to go to the DA?!  I'll prove that I'm right and you're wrong!"

Yeah, I think that's what you do.

I have much respect for Skyrock, he's a good guy, but that's funny!  

[dedalos]

hey Ded i have had it before when poor visibility (owing to a poor computer) has confused me for a second to which direction a plane is pointing. I'm sure i have never seen a 'warp' at the top of a rope.  I am curious, as you have a slightly better reputation for honest facts in this game than the first guy to post this here so Im interested to know wht you have seen happen.

Not really a warp.  I actually don't see anything and then realize that he has reversed and he is coming straight at me.  I think graphics settings, old eyes, or getting your eyes off target for a split second could do it.  I vote for graphics

[DmonSlyr]

ill make a 109 turn so sharp you will think its a a6m. the 109K once you learn to hold its stall with go from 400 to 80 in 2 seconds.

[SlapShot]

Any luck on finding those films yet Animl ?