What's with the uber maneuvers?

[Animl]

lol, I see animl still whining, I was there, you got pwned end of story.

I don't care if I am killed, I never complain about being killed unless it's baby seal HO. I don't care about points, I don't care about point mongers, and I almost never intend to make it back to base. Nor do anyone's braggin of so called skills impress me a bit. The conduct totally blows that into the "I could give a......"

So no I am NOT complaining I got roped, I am bringing forward the method that's being used to do it, which I have seen in many other situations. These people just use them the most of all I have seen.

I get shot down 100 times a night, why would I come in to this BB and complain about 1 or 2 and mask it with something else? <eye roll>

If that were the Subject the title would Be "Hypocrite whining by Muppets in the MA by makes me vomit profusely"

Animl

[Speed55]

So no I am NOT complaining I got roped, I am bringing forward the method that's being used to do it, which I have seen in many other situations. These people just use them the most of all I have seen.


Animl

Why not just watch the film with the trails on, and try and figure out a way to counter it?

The move is an offshoot of a hammerhead, and it is a hard move to counter when you're not expecting it. I have been able to counter it a couple of times but, since i never seem to film the really good fights where i win, i'm not exactly sure what i did. 
I think as they were going vertical and preparing to flip back around, i went into a steep climb at a very odd angle. This gave me enough seperation to follow them visually, but to keep there guns off me as they came back down. Somehow or another i was able to stay in the vertical a second or two longer them, and get my nose around to follow them down.








 

[Platano]

well this was an interesting thread 


hey Troy nice to see you come along and get that move down packed 

[moot]

I get shot down 100 times a night, why would I come in to this BB and complain about 1 or 2 and mask it with something else? <eye roll>

If that were the Subject the title would Be "Hypocrite whining by Muppets in the MA by makes me vomit profusely"

Animl

Lie down on the couch and let it all out..  After you post the films, since that's the good excuse for this whole panty knot and the only interesting thing the average player might get from the thread, besides Agent's tutorials.

[uptown]

Animl,
    I was chasing a top 2 rank pilot not long ago and the same thing happened to me. We were in a shallow 400mph climb, him in a dora and me in a pony. I was 1000 back and gaining, just waiting to get within 400 to start firing. But the same time I'm looking all around checking to see if anyone is eyeballing me. and when I get to 600 his guns light up, i break right trying to avoid the cannons and end up colliding with his wing. I just caulked it up as he reversed when i was checking my 6. I thought it was BS but the kid is a good stick and I guess it's possible. The guys you're talking about are good sticks also but that doesn't make them cheaters.Just tricky.Film these engagments all you'll understand. Posting here in this forum without film is just putting yourself up as a guy that got pawned and got pissed about it.

[Wingnutt]

Where're the films?

what he said.

[mechanic]

The most common high speed stalls in ah2 are on the roll axis from too much rudder and elevator combined, and actualy most planes could probably handle this stress easily unless they have abnormally long or weak wings. The one thing that makes our spins so easy compared to real life is that you dont get crushed down into your seat or have your harness cutting through your shoulders and your arms pinned and legs completely disabled.

[Animl]

Lie down on the couch and let it all out..  After you post the films, since that's the good excuse for this whole panty knot and the only interesting thing the average player might get from the thread, besides Agent's tutorials.

Is that what your pinhole vision sees this thread being about? You're kidding me right?

Tell you what, you whiners fly your own planes the way you want, and we'll fly our own planes the way we want, and if you don't like the rest of us fly, get a second account and go fight yourself silly. Your perpetual sniveling means nothing to me other then irritating like a spoiled child screaming none stop and trying tho read through the tripe on the text buffer.

But if you think it matters to me or angers me in any way that you or anyone else in this game killed me, then I suggest you've become completely absorbed with yourself, and your ego has been scrambled with a needle.

It's about the maneuvers and what may be wrong in the game that would make them much easier then they should be.

Don't ever think you rank that high on my chart that it actually matters to me if you kill me. It doesn't, get over it.

[PanosGR]

I do believe that planes in AH are too responsive at very low speeds. What I remember from stall practices with light planes is that the stick became very unresponsive, as if it is connected by weak rubber bands to the surfaces. It doesn't feel like that in the game, the nose still bounces happily and the ailerons work just fine.

in agree with that one. i think at low speeds the AH FM makes the stick way too responsive and kind of care-free handling

[thrila]

Please put up the film. 

[Adonai]

Animl, no offense but all your ranting proves you lack any knowledge of the game, if the game sucks so much why bother to continue after your two week trial is up?

[Agent360]

Animl,

You have been giving a very comprehensive explanation of the move and how it happens and how to do it.

There is nothing wrong with the game.

If you want to keep on about how the game should be changed there are other forums here where that is discussed. That has been discussed and discussed some more.

With all due respect - If you want to learn how to fly in this game you will get plenty of help as I have tried to do. But if you insist on blaming the flight model on your begginer flying tactics you will get nothing but flames and more grief.

I will be glad to show you some stuff myself. Catch me in the game sometime and just ask.

You really should take the time and post the film. I host websites and have a server. If you send it to me I will be glad to post if for you. JUst PM me on here on the forum with your email and I will contact you.

Agent360

[Gianlupo]

Sort of off topic but if you can pull this watermelon off in aces high then I will bow down and admit to gaming the game.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XZQDwRKHCSQ

Agent360

Impressive. I saw pictures of the MATV, but never saw the thing on a movie. It's astonishing how fast the nozzle moves, I thought it was slower, it's as fast as the elevator... really impressive.

[dedalos]

  First of all. Never, ever, come in here saying something may be wrong with the game.  This game has been perfect in every aspect since day one.  Ask, they will tell you.

Second, yes, (no film) but I have seen it.  I have seen it from some of the posters in this thread.  You are on his tail (or you think you are) and next thing you know you are getting a tater in your face.  Anyone in here talking about this being a rope really did not care to read what the guy described or has no imagination what so ever.

I do think however that it is probably the way the FE displays things.  I don't thing they are performing some kind of "magic".  It is probably a graphics problem that does not allow you to see the plane rotating when slow and in the vert (combined with a little bit of disorientation) until it is too late.

Then again, you never know, but since no one came out to describe how to perform that move, I think it is just a graphics issue.

[SkyRock]

Don't ever think you rank that high on my chart that it actually matters to me if you kill me. It doesn't, get over it.

wanna bet?  I bet we go to the DA and it will bother you how bad I slap you around that arena.