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Offline RoGenT

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.50s on P51
« on: June 09, 2008, 01:53:33 AM »
I did search but I couldn't find anything about it but I am sure it has been brought up in past so for that, I apologize. Anyway, Relic and I were talking via PM about 50s. I noticed the .50s on F4Us, F6Fs, FM2s seem to be little bit better than in pony (maybe they all the same, dunno). If not, putting on my wish list that the guns on the Pony be upgraded to equal to the Corsairs, F6Fs, if there is in fact, any difference at all.

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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 02:01:12 AM »
I think its because those mostly go a whole lot slower (except F4U-4) so it's easier to hit the target. Plus, F4U has better visability than 50 for deflection shots.  :D

But if its not that, then I dont know. It may be different kinds of .50 caliber guns ( to suit the type of enviroment?)
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 02:01:55 AM »
Sorry, I put this in wrong section 

And yeah that could be reason too - I rarely fly F4Us
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2008, 02:03:48 AM »
Maybe F4U's .50s shoot faster? I do blow through more ammo in an F4U faster than a 51. May be cuz I know I have less ammo in a P-51 though...
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2008, 02:47:48 AM »
C'mon rogent, I expected more of you ;)

AFIK, the guns have the exact same charactoristics. If not, the difference is there for a reason.

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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 03:03:25 AM »
i am pretty sure that the .50s on all the American planes are the same Browning .50s.




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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2008, 04:21:24 AM »
I've never seen any difference between .50 MGs except in (I think) the defensive gun on bombers and offensive guns on fighters.. Something like 'light' and 'heavy' models. Certainly no difference among the fighters' MGs.

I think that's the different barrel types I'm thinking of..
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 07:08:15 AM »
I think it is the same,just have to put a few more rounds in than cannons.
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2008, 07:46:07 AM »
6x.50 package on pony never feels as effective as on jugs or corsairs to me, I assumed it was because they are more stable gun platforms, maybe its just in the mind because of the extra ammo so you fire longer bursts without thinking about it. :rolleyes:
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 07:48:32 AM »
Are you using a different convergence setting in the P-51 vs. the F4Us/etc?
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 08:08:08 AM »
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2008, 08:08:27 AM »
I'm thinking the different wings of the planes place the 50s at different widths horizontally. One plane might have the guns a little closer to to fusslage than the other and make it seem a bit off to some players? Just a thought.
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2008, 11:26:12 AM »
I'm thinking the different wings of the planes place the 50s at different widths horizontally. One plane might have the guns a little closer to to fusslage than the other and make it seem a bit off to some players? Just a thought.
That would have the opposite effect, though, as the Pony's guns are mounted closer to the fuselage than the P47 (IIRC) and most certainly the Corsair.

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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 03:11:02 PM »
One possible explanation (other than Rogent is on crack ;)) is that HTC has modelled round dispersion differently per plane. This would take into account how rigidly the guns were mounted to the aircraft, and how the local structure flexed under recoil loads. The whole "stable gun platform" thing.
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Re: .50s on P51
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2008, 04:03:30 PM »
Don't understand the quesiton completely...but keep in mind, at least on the F4U's, the guns are closer to "you". The pony's guns are farther out on the wing.
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