Cutting your engine: Valid tactic or Gaming the Game?

[Bodhi]

Because people are dumb, it's just like when tards drop thir gears in the middle of a dog fight. That always cracks me up..

Perhaps you should look into the reasoning behind dropping gear.  You might then see you should be actually laughing at yourself for not thinking of it sooner.

[crockett]

Perhaps you should look into the reasoning behind dropping gear.  You might then see you should be actually laughing at yourself for not thinking of it sooner.

I know why they do it.. I just find it sad that they have to do it. There are far better ways to get someone off your six with out dropping your landing gears.

[Lusche]

I know why they do it.. I just find it sad that they have to do it. There are far better ways to get someone off your six with out dropping your landing gears.

While most people just waste precious E with that gear-drop, there are some situations it's not the worst option.

For example, I was killed today by a F4U using that "stunt".

I was hunting down a F4U-C in my 190D, having a huge speed advantage as. Actually I did commit a major error by closing way too fast, maybe just short of 500mph. The F4U wasn't slow either, but still I was closing in very fast. In retrospect I know the Corsair suddenly kicked in rudder and deployed gear. Not having the best eyesight, I didn't realize the situation quick enough and barely prevented a collision. I was way too fast to quickly pull up or do similar maneuvres. I passed him, and 1/2 second later I was missing a wing. Doh!

My enemy correctly assessed the situation (and my error) and decided to do that somewhat risky, but after all successful maneuvre.

[Gixer]

Gamey! Just like F4's dropping their landing gear in a second flat and retracting it again. When ever I see some dweeb in a F4 of any model especially the C-Hog (as if the perk ride isn't easy mode enough ) dropping landing gear they are target number one and I will fly into ship ack and ignore every other con around me to to kill them. Often sending in three rounds just to watch the fireworks... 

The cutting engine E is just as lame and gets given the same treatment, though much harder to pick out..


<S>...-Gixer

[CAP1]

Gamey! Just like F4's dropping their landing gear in a second flat and retracting it again. When ever I see some dweeb in a F4 of any model especially the C-Hog (as if the perk ride isn't easy mode enough ) dropping landing gear they are target number one and I will fly into ship ack and ignore every other con around me to to kill them. Often sending in three rounds just to watch the fireworks... 

The cutting engine E is just as lame and gets given the same treatment, though much harder to pick out..


<S>...-Gixer

well, whoever was doing it, was doing..or at least he thought he was doing something to help himself inm a most likely bad situation. although real pilots in WW2 didn't do this, they DID however improvise when they felt the need to. then DID adapt to the situation at hand. through these they usually OVERCAME their enemy and a bad situation. that being said, what the hell?
it was a guy trying something out. if you overshot him when he did it, then you did something wrong. same if you collided with him. rather than waste your time here crying about how ""gamey"" it is, or that in real life it was impossible, wouldn't your time be much better spent in DA or TA practicing? it's JUST A GAME gor Gods sake!!
 do what he did, improvise when he does this. adapt to the new situation. then when you've overcome his manuever, kill him

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[RumbleB]

ok so it was a total lala dweeb and you thought he was gaming the game? sounds like he wasnt gaming anythign but himself.

[Gixer]

Do what he did, improvise when he does this. adapt to the new situation. then when you've overcome his maneuver, kill him

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Even if that means taking advantage of flight modeling weakness and the unrealistic way gear can be lowered and raised in 2 secs. No thanks.

And yes I do kill em, have no problem with F4U's  


<S>...-Gixer

[CAP1]

Even if that means taking advantage of flight modeling weakness and the unrealistic way gear can be lowered and raised in 2 secs. No thanks.

And yes I do kill em, have no problem with F4U's  


<S>...-Gixer

 

[colmbo]

Can't find the source currently, but I guarentee "glide bombing" was actually used with effectiveness during WWII.

Yeah, glide bombing was a tactic but it didn't mean the engine was shut down.  It refers to a shallow dive to bomb release vs the steep "dive bomb" attack.

[BoilerDown]

Eh, if there's one thing I've learned so far its that you don't really know what works and what doesn't until you've tried it and failed a few times.

[LLogann]

What he said....

Why cut your engine when you can just reduce throttle?

[Bodhi]

I know why they do it.. I just find it sad that they have to do it. There are far better ways to get someone off your six with out dropping your landing gears.

The F4u is designed to drop gear in flights that exceed normal "landing speeds".  In fact the gear is designed with the use as an alternate dive brake in mind.  When I am in a rolling scissors, I like to deploy them and retract them, as they give me  enough drag to roll in and behind a bit further.  If I come in high and fast, they provide me with the ability to dive in and not over speed and auger.  Lastly, if I commit to a turn fight in a circle, I very often deploy them and retract them to get down to the best high degree turn so that I get first whack at the nme.

Game, naw, more of just knowing the aircraft you are flying.

[BaldEagl]

Cutting your engine is neither a valid tactic or gaming the game, it's just stupid.

[Gixer]

The F4u is designed to drop gear in flights that exceed normal "landing speeds".  In fact the gear is designed with the use as an alternate dive brake in mind.  When I am in a rolling scissors, I like to deploy them and retract them, as they give me  enough drag to roll in and behind a bit further.  If I come in high and fast, they provide me with the ability to dive in and not over speed and auger.  Lastly, if I commit to a turn fight in a circle, I very often deploy them and retract them to get down to the best high degree turn so that I get first whack at the nme.

Game, naw, more of just knowing the aircraft you are flying.

Game yes, name a plane in reality that can lower and raise it's landing gear as fast?  Drop to use as a brake yes, drop-raise-drop-raise in a few seconds no. Nothing to do with knowing your aircraft. Your taking advantage of the gamey flight modeling. As if the uber flaps aren't easy enough.

Anyway, when ever I see flaps out landing gear down can't help but laugh, as It's a great energy state indicator for time to pull verticle drop down and nail the dweeb.


<S>...-Gixer

[Lusche]

Game yes, name a plane in reality that can lower and raise it's landing gear as fast? Your taking advantage of the gamey flight modeling.

With such a definition of "gamey" we may be doing a lot of gamey things in game. I'm not shure if real WWII could endure slamming into the rudder at 500mph to help slowing down. I vaguely remember having read about the Pony "no rudder above XXX mph" ... someone with better knowledge could elaborate or tell me I'm wrong