Wesley Clark: Obama Lap Dog & a Disgrace in General

[crockett]

I think you guys are falling for the typical "headlines" BS. Read it in the context that he said it and there is nothing wrong with what he said. He is entitled to his opinion, last time I checked.

The part where he said being shot down doesn't make him qualified was a reply to a direct question that was asked of him. I really wonder how many actually read the article before just jumping on the bandwagon. Besides that why should Obama have to say anything? Is Clark working on his campaign? If Oprah says something about McCain, does Obama have to denounce her? If Rush Limprod says something bad about Obama does McCain have to denounce him?


""I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war. And he has traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive responsibility," said Clark, a former NATO commander who campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004.

"He hasn't been there and ordered the bombs to fall. He hasn't seen what it's like when diplomats come in and say, I don't know whether we're going to be able to get this point through or not," Clark said.

Schieffer noted that Obama did not have any of those experiences, nor had he "ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down."

"Well, I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president," Clark said.

[Mojava]

 Wesley Clark is a great American, and a war hero. Here you go Crockett, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1UYquKlfT0 and last but not least http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

[CAP1]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/index.html

This bothers me a great deal...  Wesley Clark comes out and endorses Obama -  and then has the gall to say McCain is "not qualified" to be Commander in Chief of the US armed forces.

McCain's Father, and Grand Father were both Admirals - and McCain graduated from the US Naval Academy and saw combat first hand.  He came "from the brass" and "fought in the trenches" - I can't think of a more well rounded profile for a Commander in Chief.

How dare he go there !  Especially considering Obama has never even so much as joined the Cub Scouts ! 

What, pray tell, Mr Clark, has Obama done, to make you think he'd make a better Commander in Chief ?

cause he's gonna """"change"" things

[Slamfire]

Tarmac, could you please educate me on what outfit McCain was CO of?

I agree he has the experience of combat, but he did not hold a command other than being senior POW. Clark actually has more command experience than McCain and I'd listen to what he has to say. I'd actually prefer to see Clark as the nominee.

Slamfire is pulling quotes out of his 6 when he said "has the gall to say McCain is "not qualified" to be Commander in Chief of the US armed forces." Did you see that anywhere in the linked article? I sure did'nt. Squeakfire is making spin, that's all. Don't forget Dubya vs McCain in South Carolina. Now THAT was a disgrace.

You lie: I never quoted anything from that article.  I simply provided a link and gave MY opinion of what he said.

[Hajo]

Doesn't really matter.....whoever gets the most money into his campaign coffers and gets the most support from the influential will win.

[Stoney]

I've been on the pointy end of General Clark's past "executive decisions" and I can tell you from personal experience, he's a pedantic idiot.  He was certainly Clinton's darling General during his tenure as SACEUR.

[moot]

I've been on the pointy end of General Clark's past "executive decisions" and I can tell you from personal experience, he's a pedantic idiot.  He was certainly Clinton's darling General during his tenure as SACEUR.

So in the end it's all dirty, politics as usual.

[bcadoo]

There aren't many qualifications to being president:

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 – ratified February 27, 1951

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

The only other is to win the electoral college vote.

[soda72]

If Wesley Clark was ever on the short list for Obama's VP selection this stupid comment will most likely exclude him from that list.

[Stoney]

I forgot to add above that, yes, I called a former Rhodes Scholar a pedantic idiot.  If anyone wants details, I'd be more than willing to discuss them over a beer, but they would take up pages of this forum to explain fully.

Suffice it to say that General Clark's military accumen leaves something to be desired.  If anyone ever has a chance to watch the PBS Frontline documentary on the Kosovo Campaign, pay very close attention to General Charles Krulak's closing comments.

[Toad]

Clark is the military poodle on a leash held by Obama. If he barks, it is because his master commanded him to speak.

[rpm]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/index.html

This bothers me a great deal...  Wesley Clark comes out and endorses Obama -  and then has the gall to say McCain is "not qualified" to be Commander in Chief of the US armed forces.

Care to point out where I'm the one telling lies? You are putting words in Clarks mouth he never said.

[Slamfire]

Care to point out where I'm the one telling lies? You are putting words in Clarks mouth he never said.

Again, you accused me of making up quotes - which is a lie - I provided a link to the article and gave MY opinion on what was said.  I did not misquote Clark - in fact I did not even quote him.  Again, you lie once more saying I am putting words in Clark's mouth - I have done no such thing...

You also attempted to derail the discussion by making it "personal" with me - going so far as to call me names (ie: "Squeekfire" - Ironic, considering I've been playing this game - and it's predecessors - for over 15 years now - don't assume that just because I change my handle every couple of years that I'm some wet behind the ears dweeb).

BTW - I'd be FINE with what Clark said if he applied it equally to both Candidates - instead, he focused solely on McCain and refused to "go there" when it came to Obama.  In short, it was a political hackjob - a hypocritical cheap shot...  a double standard.

[Eagler]

clark became a dem tool about the time he started his talking head tour on CNN ...

[midnight Target]

And 4 years ago when people attacked Kerry it was justified because "Kerry's the one who's running on his war record".. We need to honor these guys for what they did and leave the rest of it alone. Don't get indignant over this one if you were happily drinking the Swift Boat kool-aide 4 years ago.