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Offline RTR

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It's not a HO when I do it...
« on: July 11, 2008, 12:46:18 AM »
just when you do it :D

That oughta cover it :)

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Offline hubsonfire

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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 12:48:12 AM »
Sometimes, I think I'd be better off dead.

No, wait, not me- you.
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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 05:15:28 AM »
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Offline SD67

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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 05:37:06 AM »
just when you do it :D

That oughta cover it :)

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But what if you do it after somebody else does it first? And if it gives you a nasty disease is it still not a HO?
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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 07:27:24 AM »
First off make sure your defining a HO correctly. Bare minimum is that your both in level flight, nose pointed at each other.

Anything else is a hot merge or a forward quarter shot in a maneuver fight.  :)

Offline Hap

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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 07:32:57 AM »
just when you do it :D

That oughta cover it :)

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Offline lagger86

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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 07:43:43 AM »
I just figure every one is going to HO me every time, so I don't fly directly at people in level flight...I'll fly at em at varying angles and sometimes they get a nice deflection shot and I die...it wasn't a HO because I wasn't HOing....so I have no complaint. Half the time I just avoid reverse and repeat. The smart ones actually engage and pwn me like it's their job...the rest just continue to extend turn around and fly straight at me until I run out of gas. A kills a kill I guess(even if it's a proxy on my very poor ditching skills) so again I can't complain.
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Offline SD67

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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 08:26:56 AM »
Let's face it a majority of the HO shots are really frontal deflection shots.
If you Don't like it take a different merge.
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Offline SkyRock

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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 10:17:21 AM »
Let's face it a majority of the HO shots are really frontal deflection shots.
If you Don't like it take a different merge.

Weak HO twit retort!

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Offline Jenks

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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 12:56:09 PM »
 When your opponent is maneuvering to come straight at you, guns a blazing from 1K out ,sometimes more or less, and you are going for a lead turn, you present him with a front quarter shot.    That doesn't change the fact that his intention was to HO,HO,HO.   This is a very common scenario.   More experienced pilots usually avoid the shot, reverse, and if the con is willing to engage, end up on his 6 and kill him.   Often though, the Hoing, stick stirring, hasn't got a clue newb, runs to a safe distance, comes around and tries it again.   I'll admit that when I was the Noob, I did it too, cause I didn't have a clue.   I found very quickly though that it was a dangerous gambit and I have been steadfastly avoiding Ho's ever since.   That doesn't mean I don't feel a bit irritated when the Hoer manages to get me on that "front quarter shot".   
 
 Hopefully most players will realize its a poor choice for an opening move.   I know Mark is doing his best to educate the neophytes. :)
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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 01:02:38 PM »
When your opponent is maneuvering to come straight at you, guns a blazing from 1K out ,sometimes more or less, and you are going for a lead turn, you present him with a front quarter shot.    That doesn't change the fact that his intention was to HO,HO,HO. 


For whatever reason (inconvenient for their argument, I suspect), this very well said and truthful thought is largely ignored by many :)

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Offline SlapShot

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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 03:50:25 PM »
When your opponent is maneuvering to come straight at you, guns a blazing from 1K out ,sometimes more or less, and you are going for a lead turn, you present him with a front quarter shot.

%99.9999 of the people who start spraying at 1K or deeper wouldn't know a front-quarter shot if it upped and bit them in the arse.

At the start of any engagement, I am always working for the lead-turn, and over the past couple of years, I can count on one hand the amount of times that I have been pinged on the initial merge and can't remember when I was actually totally disabled/killed at a merge by a front quarter shot, regardless if they are spraying for the HO or not.

After the merge ... I have lost many a fight, but I have never lost a fight, in a very long time, pre-merge, due to an HO attempt.
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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 03:58:05 PM »
You must not be doing it right Slap!

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Offline SD67

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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 04:53:27 PM »
Weak HO twit retort!
I never said I could do it, my gunnery sucks :lol I'm just sayin' that's all.
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Re: It's not a HO when I do it...
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 11:16:54 AM »
 :noid :lol