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Offline thedudee95

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New plane a must (not b29)
« on: July 31, 2008, 12:08:49 AM »
We seriously need the a6m2-N.




LIke lets say u got some kills, and when u are heading back, ur airfield gets attacked.

U got a nearby cv, but it is sunk. u can land near the spawn for the cv, and u can land ur kills.

This plane is also useful for recon, like finding enemy cvs'.

Wat u think?

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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 12:14:04 AM »
Did it see combat?
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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 12:16:19 AM »
i believe so...

Have to look up on that.


EDIT: This floatplane was developed from the Mitsubishi A6M "Zero", for the purpose of supporting amphibian operations and defending remote bases. It was based on the A6M-2 Model 11 fuselage, with a modified tail and floats. This aircraft was the brainchild of Shinobu Mitsutake, Nakajima's Chief Engineer, and Atsushi Tajima, one of the company's designers. A total of 327 were built, including the original prototype.

The plane was deployed in 1942, referred to as the "Suisen 2" ("Hydro fighter type 2"), and was only utilized in defensive actions in the Aleutians and Solomon Islands operations. Such seaplanes were effective at night in harassing American PT boats, and they were very difficult to detect, even with primitive radar. Close misses killed officers and crew of boats such as PT 105. They would also drop flares to illuminate the PTs which were vulnerable to destroyer gunfire, and depended on cover of darkness. Since the boats left a phosphorescent wake which was visible from the air, they would leave their engines in idle to minimize this wake. It was primarily for this reason that John F. Kennedy's PT 109 was caught off guard in idle and rammed in a historic incident by the destroyer Amagiri, unable to maneuver out of the way in time.

The seaplane also served as an interceptor for protecting fueling depots in Balikpapan and Avon Bases (Dutch East Indies) and reinforced the Shumushu base (North Kuriles) in the same period. Such fighters served aboard seaplane carriers Kamikawa Maru in the Solomons and Kuriles areas and aboard Japanese raiders Hokoku Maru and Aikoku Maru in Indian Ocean raids. During fighting in the Solomon Islands, the Navy "Rufe" air aces Master Sergeant Kawai and Master Sergeant Maruyama shot down four American Grumman F4F Wildcat fighters.[citation needed] In the Aleutian Campaign this fighter engaged with P-38 Lightning fighters and B-17 Flying Fortress bombers. This aircraft was used for interceptor, fighter-bomber, and short reconnaissance support for amphibious landings, among other uses.

Later in the conflict the Otsu Air Group utilized the A6M2-N as an interceptor alongside Kawanishi N1K1 Kyofu ("Rex") aircraft based in Biwa lake in the Honshū area.

Unhappily for its pilots, the large float and wing pontoons of the A6M2-N degraded its performance by about 20%, enough that the Rufe was not usually a match for even the first generation of Allied fighters. However, the Rufe was not as ludicrous a concept as it might seem; after all, the Supermarine Spitfire was derived from a seaplane design that actually held the world air speed record for a time. However, the lighter construction of the Zero, which compensated for the relative inefficiency of the Nakajima Sakae engine compared to the Rolls-Royce Merlin, worked against the seaplane concept.

 Operators

        Yokohama Air Group
        Toko Air Group
        Otsu Air Group
        Yokosuka Air Group (technical evaluation unit)
        11th Air Fleet
        5th Air Fleet
        36th Air Fleet
        452nd Air Fleet
        934th Air Fleet
Specifications (Nakajima A6M2-N)

General characteristics

    * Length: 33ft 2.75in (10.13m)
    * Wingspan: 36ft 1in (11.0m)
    * Height: 14ft 1.25in (4.30m)
    * Empty weight: 3,968lb (1,912kg)
    * Max takeoff weight: 5,423lb (2,460kg)
    * Powerplant: 1× Nakajima NK1C Sakae 12 Air cooled 14 cylinder radial, 925 hp ()

Performance

    * Maximum speed: 273 mph at 16,404ft (435 km/h at 5,000m)
    * Range: 1,106 miles (1,780 km)
    * Service ceiling 32,800ft (10,000m)
    * Rate of climb: 6min 43s to 16,404ft (6min 43s to 5,000m)

Armament

    * 2x7.7mm Type 97 machine guns with 500 rpg above forward fuselage
    * 2x20mm Type 99 cannons each with 60-round drum fixed in ounter wings
    * Wings racks for 2 66lb (30kg) bombs

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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 12:17:37 AM »
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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 12:21:44 AM »
LIke lets say u got some kills, and when u are heading back, ur airfield gets attacked.

U got a nearby cv, but it is sunk. u can land near the spawn for the cv, and u can land ur kills.



well this seems like such a rare occurance that you are bringing up that it will almost never happen
plus,
do you really think you could get kills in that thing  :D
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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 12:23:24 AM »
it got 20mm on wing, and 2 of those other guns( forgot which type) on the front ,with a bunch of ammo.

i play il2(the game) and i have gotten a few kills in it.

EDIT: the early 109s' had 7.97mm?

the a6m2-n has 7.7, and alot more ammo then the bf109.


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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 12:28:03 AM »
it got 20mm on wing, and 2 of those other guns( forgot which type) on the front ,with a bunch of ammo.

i play il2(the game) and i have gotten a few kills in it.

EDIT: the early 109s' had 7.97mm?

the a6m2-n has 7.7, and alot more ammo then the bf109.



well the early 109's didnt have a giant cigar underneathe 'em  :D

also, i didnt think those water based planes did any fighting, i thought they were either recon or search and Rescue
it just looks like it will fly like a dumptruck
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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 12:30:40 AM »
A6M2N. We have the A6M2 in game, so we already know the ammo load outs, which are 2 crappy 20mm cannons (copies of the Oerlikon MG/FF in the 109E and Bf110C) and 2 7.7mm machine guns.
From what he posted, this would be a bigger, slower, heavier A6M2.


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the a6m2-n has 7.7, and alot more ammo then the bf109.
The A6M2 has 120 rounds of 20mm and 1000 rounds of 7.7mm ammunition.
The Bf.109E4 has 120 rounds of 20mm and 2000 rounds of 7.9mm ammunition.
The Bf.109F4 has 200 rounds of 20mm and 1000 rounds of 7.9mm ammunition.

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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 12:31:24 AM »
Did u read any of the above??

It goes up to 273mph and and it did see combat.

It could be useful for something in AH...

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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 12:33:14 AM »
It could be useful for something in AH...

i dont really think so, i just assume it will be another plane nobody flies
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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 12:33:40 AM »
Did u read any of the above??

It goes up to 273mph and and it did see combat.

It could be useful for something in AH...
I did read above :)
The Rufe is an A6M2 with 3 pontoons strapped to the bottom. Thus it's performance will be worse in every possible way.

It would be an interesting plane for sure, but there are far more important aircraft to be produced.
Only 327 Rufes were made according to wiki.

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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 12:35:22 AM »
Thus it's performance will be worse in every possible way.

except its buoyancy  :D
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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 01:17:54 AM »
it could be a plane that they add when they redo the a6m
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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 06:01:38 AM »
There was also a floatplane version of the N1K, in fact the N1K series of land planes were developed from the floatplane IIRC. However the only real benefit of any floatplane, fighter or bomber, in the MA would be the ability to launch from a port. Any of them would be inferior to their land/CV plane equivalents in that enviroment and would end up as hangar queens.

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Re: New plane a must (not b29)
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2008, 08:37:26 AM »
Adding this and the PBY with extra zoom capability for recon operations and sea borne re-supplying capabilities would be defineatly adding a new dimension to the game.  I like it.

The Jap plane as suggested would be able to deliver supplies on a scale like the jeep (maybe no troopd and 2X veh supps and 1/2 credit for field supps), and the PBY on a scale similar to the C47 (minus the troops).
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